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Rik

by Rik on 30 August 2022 - 17:08

"And any complaints I have are the result of my own ignorance, and nothing to do with this site." SS

had to LOL SS. it takes some years of "learnin" to gain this kind of education.

best,

Rik


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 31 August 2022 - 08:08

Well I'd chime in there and say (although I have not obtained any dogs via PDB) this website is a joy to use and to be a part of responders on it. Even though I'm currently having a bit of difficulty with PDB being slow to change pages (& I'll echo Sunny there 'cos that could well be down to me !) and it not infrequently signs me out (!) for some reason ( a problem I don't think is any ignorance on my part) - PDB is still way up there for ease of use.

The Brit Kennel Club & its associated sidelines could well do to take a look and study how a good, usable, accessible and generally accurate dog 'registry' is run, and maintained.

by GSCat on 05 September 2022 - 00:09

by Hundmutter on 31 August 2022 - 08:08

The Brit Kennel Club & its associated sidelines could well do to take a look and study how a good, usable, accessible and generally accurate dog 'registry' is run, and maintained.

Ditto AKC.

(although maybe my fault if I've missed something important about using the AKC website)

 


Q Man

by Q Man on 08 September 2022 - 08:09

Hundmutter...I too have had problems with the PDB signing me out...But it hasn't done it lately...I just took it as though "work" was being done on the site...But I don't really know why...

~Bob~

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 08 September 2022 - 11:09

Bob, its doing it less now than it was a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, maybe it was a side-effect of something Oli was doing, or whoever ? Site still seems a bit slow in moving from page to page too but again that does seem to have improved a bit from what it was doing. Are you getting page changes ok ?

by GSCat on 08 September 2022 - 21:09

Maybe something to do with the latest upgrades from MS. PDB pages are loading fine for me, but haven't gotten the latest upgrades they keep nagging me about. Whenever I have these kinds of problems with this website, it "always" seems to follow on the heels of MS changes :-(

Rik

by Rik on 09 September 2022 - 21:09

Cat, one of the issues I have with AKC is that they want to operate like they are a top secret organization. I have AKC Champions in 3 breeds that I can't get information on because I didn't own them when they were showing and finished.

seriously, I am the breeder of record on a dog registered with the akc, and I can't follow that dog's career.

the other issue I have is what breed have they recognized is still good for it's intended purpose?

they may be good for a data base or registry. they are a death knell for any breed that was created for a purpose.

of course,
jmo

Rik



by GSCat on 09 September 2022 - 21:09

by Rik on 09 September 2022 - 21:09

Cat, one of the issues I have with AKC is that they want to operate like they are a top secret organization. I have AKC Champions in 3 breeds that I can't get information on because I didn't own them when they were showing and finished.

seriously, I am the breeder of record on a dog registered with the akc, and I can't follow that dog's career.

the other issue I have is what breed have they recognized is still good for it's intended purpose?

they may be good for a data base or registry. they are a death knell for any breed that was created for a purpose.

of course,
jmo

Rik

 

It would be nice if the owners of those dogs would at least email you with info from time-to-time.  Too bad AKC doesn't allow people to give read-only permission to view dog(s).  The only way you could follow a dog would be to look at every event, plus each event's local website, which would be very time consuming.  If the dog didn't 1-2-3 in a particular event, you wouldn't know how well he or she did, and many times, even if he or she was there in the first place.

 

Not just GSD (American lines) at least sometimes not suitable for the breed's intended purpose(s).  Siberian Huskies, the same way.  Racing/working lines have very different temperament and energy levels than many of those bred specfically to be pets.  Fortunately, still a healthy breed with overall generally good (physical) conformation to the breed standard.  And even with "pet" Sibes, there's still a lot of energy, clowning, hard-headedness, etc.  The biggest visible difference is many pet "Sibes" don't have the huge undercoat and really rough topcoat that the racing/working lines have.  Both are pretty, but the giant coat is needed for working in harsh winter conditions.  People with only pet Sibe experience, even with the semi-annual coat blowing that generates shopping bags full, have no idea how much fur those dogs can actually grow and carry around LOL Unless one undertakes physical conditioning, etc. necessary for pulling a sled, the owner will never know if the Sibe has the lungs, endurance, muscle potential, pads, etc. necessary for real-world work, either.  Most pet Sibe owners have no need or interest for this, so it's hard to say if this is being bred out (even unintentionally) along with the giant coats.

 

What other breeds is AKC destroying by only evaluating "pretty" instead of including working suitability?

 

 

 


Rik

by Rik on 11 September 2022 - 06:09

"What other breeds is AKC destroying by only evaluating "pretty" instead of including working suitability?"

cat, I guess the better question would be, why don't you name the breeds still good for their intended purpose? do Irish and Goldens still retrieve have you seen what lab obedience champions look like now? ? Does the AKC GSD S/L even come close to resembling what the AKC describes as a GSD on their page? in the 40's, the people donated their GSDS to the war effort. pretty sure the AKC dogs won't meet that standard anymore.

didn't the JRT club choose not to join AKC because they recognize what it does to a breed?

maybe I'm wrong and am willing to be educated. the obedience, tracking, agility part of AKC is very good. the show stuff, not so much.

jmo,

.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 11 September 2022 - 14:09

From my (limited) experience the dogs entered in the performance part of CKC (Canadian) shows are never the same ones being shown in the breed classes. Sometimes they aren't even GSDs!

Yes, it sucks... The border collie people also fought long and hard against AKC recognition, for the same reason as the JRT club. Alas, they were recognized in 1995.

A quick look at some of the BC kennels here in Canada shows the show dogs now have (inevitably) more coat than before. (This is one of the things that prevents the Lassie type collie from being a good working dog anymore - the massive coat they carry picks up all sorts of burs and trash, and makes them prone to overheating. And, of course, the herding instinct is pretty much gone.)

They also seem to be developing much more of a stop than previously, and a shorter snout. The neighbour behind me has 3 B.C.s as pets, so I know what the non-show collies look like. 

The Canadian kennel I checked out does work some of their dogs in rally and agility.






 


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