Great interview with Gerrard van Es - Page 4

Hundmutter:
Interesting exposition on working stock. Two things I noticed, one of which 'bugs' me: Firstly that Van Es says he's always chosen to breed with "West German working lines" - please note, he's not obsessing about the values of 'DDR', I find that very interesting in the light of the recent topics on here.

i don't know his motive but should be considered that Gerrard was western breeder and most likely till 1990 haven't dealt with DDR dogs.
i guess he didn't know that dogs very well and saw them only as opportunity to enhance civil peculiarity of dogs, he have used to.

Hundmutter:
Secondly - and this is the one that I objected to - he, like others, talks about the "cookie cutter" nature of the black&red SV dogs.  Well if you are Showing for Breed Conformation compliance, of course the dogs are going to look quite alike.But nobody ever proved that how a dog looks is how it can work.  And has anyone taken a long hard look at all those dark sables videoed or pictured on Trials fields ?  You cannot easily tell them apart until you know them, anymore than the cookie-cuttered Show dogs.

indeed. you're correct in that statement. they are easily distinguishable but in their own right been selectively narrowed for certain purposes (to gain points in either show or sport), with majority of remnants only suitable for rehoming as a pet type dogs.

BM, here is the pedigree.  http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=81769-quinta-von-haus-larwin   

Thank you Emoryg I need a time machine and take some dogs from that pedigree