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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 25 January 2018 - 15:01

No of course it isn't impossible for a young dog to have hips that show some arthritic change ('damage'), either as a consequence of a congenital abnormality of its joints, or as a result of accidents during puppyhood. That was not my point. Alamaia just wrote "but I don't see any damage on that (sic) hip" and what I was trying to establish was that having some damage already present, or showing symptoms of something being clinically wrong, is mostly not the first 'port of call' for a majority of GSD owners.  In other breeds where HD can be present but there has never been such intense interest in the genetics of the condition, there is not the same pressure to have hips examined and graded, by everybody from the German SV, to national and local GSD clubs, to veterinary services.

To post making it seem to the casual reader that this OP's enquiry was as a result of seeking veterinary advice, as though evidence of actual 'damage' was being sought, distorts the purpose of taking the X ray for an OFA or SV grade, (which will almost certainly prove to be the reason this thred exists) and may easily mislead people into thinking it is only done - and the OP is only asking for opinions - for the purpose of dealing with some actual symptomatic presentation.  I would argue that language difficulties or not, nobody should be posting JUST "I can't see any damage", in those circumstances.  Really not helpful.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 25 January 2018 - 17:01

Sockets could be deeper - neither hip has good coverage, though the right is worse than left. But that could be due to the pelvic tilt in the x-ray.

Not sure how they will score. May get a good, or may be rated fair.

I've seen worse x-rays, and think OFA may find this one acceptable. If they do, and the hips don't pass, or rate as fair, I would be tempted to resubmit with a better x-ray.

by alamaia on 26 January 2018 - 01:01

i agree with almost everthing you are saying but the need of the argument must be complete as possible to be worth somenthing.. if you go with that route a phd in dog ortopedics can argue that your assessment is incomplete as well for his taste therefore you shouldn't writte nothing but a entire book here.






Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 26 January 2018 - 08:01

Alamaia I'm really not looking to prolong an argument with you, but that is a silly position; you could say the same about at least a dozen regular topics on here. EG one poster who I am in regular contact with always wants to write ( or for me to post on his behalf) a full essay on genetics every time someone wants to know the colour their puppy is going to end up. Not going to happen. Have a nice day.


by alamaia on 26 January 2018 - 14:01

if you dont want to prolong the argument is simple just dont keep arguing.

its a free forum i spoke my mind it was simple and maybe even deabatable as how acurate was, but dont come here gestapoing me.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 26 January 2018 - 16:01

I see "Godwin's law" is alive and well ...

by alamaia on 28 January 2018 - 03:01

i can change gestapo for coi-codi, securitat, dina... if you will feel better. you are missing the point

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 28 January 2018 - 03:01

May be but you are too.  Stop the back and forth crap


by alamaia on 28 January 2018 - 19:01

or?

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 28 January 2018 - 19:01

Really do you need an "or" to stop you from  showing the world your lack of manners






 


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