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Does anyone else remember when the Dixie Chicks were derided and called un-American when they said they were ashamed that GWB was from Texas? Do you remember the total outrage from the right wing? Have you heard one peep out of them about Franklin Graham and his little trip to Russia? No, I didn't think so.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/franklin-graham-praises-gay-propaganda-law-critizes-us-secularism-in-russia-visit/

Wow, how unoriginal!

 

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/gays_take_other_people_s_children_franklin_graham_goes_to_russia_praises_putin_and_slams_america

Still not hearing any protest from the Right re Putin, F Graham, the attitude to the LGBTI community and so on ...

Do they know you are waiting to hear from them?

Yeah, nor will you, they can't talk because they're drowning in the pool of hypocrisy.

So says the plagiarizer. Wow!

Yeah bee, I see you understand definitions about as well as you can spell the word plagerizer (sic), lol. And of course, no comment on the content, just personal attacks, so I see you still haven't brushed up on logical fallacies either. Maybe there's a special class where they teach Logic and English together, you should check your local Community College!

 

The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin Nov 06, 2016 4:26am EST by The Baptist Death Ray Comment large77 127 (This is crossposted from Facebook, so you might also stumble upon it there.) In 1998 then-President Bill Clinton was embroiled in a scandal that ended with Congress attempting to impeach him. The reason was pretty simple: at the time, he swore under oath that he was not having an affair with a young intern, and it turned out that he was. James Dobson (leader of Focus on the Family, an Evangelical "values voters" political group) wrote a letter explaining his position on the scandal. I will quote some of that letter now: What has alarmed me throughout this episode has been the willingness of my fellow citizens to rationalize the President’s behavior even after they suspected, and later knew, that he was lying. Because the economy is strong, millions of people have said infidelity in the Oval Office is just a private affair–something between himself and Hillary. We heard it time and again during those months: "As long as Mr. Clinton is doing a good job, it’s nobody’s business what he does with his personal life." He then went on to opine that character DOES matter, and that the private life of a President matters, and that the moral character of a President in his private life is very important: As it turns out, character DOES matter. You can’t run a family, let alone a country, without it. How foolish to believe that a person who lacks honesty and moral integrity is qualified to lead a nation and the world! Nevertheless, our people continue to say that the President is doing a good job even if they don’t respect him personally. Those two positions are fundamentally incompatible. In the Book of James the question is posed, "Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring" (James 3:11 NIV). The answer is no. Fast forward to 2016, when the very same James Dobson has this to say about Donald Trump: It's a cliche but true: We are electing a commander-in-chief, not a theologian-in-chief. Oh, how the pious have fallen. How easy it was to justify condemnation of Clinton, a man he wanted to condemn anyway! How awkward to have to find a way to justify a man he wanted to support because he'd decided to take his bribe! This is a pretty good summary of the majority of politically motivated evangelical personalities these days. A few have stuck to their guns and refused to endorse Donald Trump -- a man who doesn't even come close to possessing the qualities you'd think evangelicals would look for in a moral, Christian leader -- but for the most part they're quick to forgive and endorse. The reason couldn't be any more despicable: these "Christian leaders" don't actually care what politicians ARE. They only care what they DO. In short: as long as Donald Trump opposes abortion and gays, he can grope whomever he likes. This shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone. Political evangelicals support Republicans, because the Republican platform has the things on it they want. If the Republican platform didn't have those things, they wouldn't endorse. It's a purely transactional relationship -- the words coming out of their mouths are just the packing material you stuff around the goods being shipped in order to keep it from being too damaged during transit. It is, in short, a bribe: the Republican equivalent of the mythical Obamaphone. The political wing of the evangelical movement can no longer call themselves "evangelical." In a political context, the word means nothing more than "this soul is for hire." It is an empty, hollow shell, willing to sing "Lord, Lord" for a reasonable hourly rate, negotiated in advance. It is certainly not evangelical in the religious sense--you know, where the word actually came from, meaning people who believe the Great Commission is still in effect today. It isn't the evangelical that makes people sacrifice in order to minister to the lost, either by their own missionary work or by supporting that work. No... the political wing of the evangelical movement has jumped the leviathan. By endorsing Donald Trump it has shown that the thing it loves first and foremost is the accumulation of political power, and that it will ally with anyone who will promise them that power. It has, finally, exposed its secret idol to the rest of the world. They worship power. They lust for it. They hunger for it. They hoard it. They are angry when they don't have it, they envy the people who do, and they are proud of what power they've accumulated so far. The only deadly sin they don't have in this respect is sloth -- I'll give them credit for that. They work very hard to sell their souls, each and every day. LINK TO ARTICLE

Oh, absolutely you failed to attribute your opening paragraph to the proper source, and as it is written still, it is obvious you hoped to leave the impression you had the original idea.

But, no, the deception to deliberately use a different source than the one that actually made the connection with the Dixie Chicks, wasn't even very clever. Yes, indeed, that is plagiarism. Dance around that one by putting up a wall of text, but this isn't the first time, now is it?

You really are not so brilliant at being a rather stupid word thief. I'll be kind and leave out some of the other obvious contradictions you live, just because there is no point to being cruel.

Except, I wonder why such a rocket scientist like you can't figure how to resize a photo.

@beetree, you really need to stop trying so hard. I said Trump is a fascist. You said I said complete fascist. I corrected you and you claim that I speak in absolutes and see things in black and white. Hmmmm, I think you are the one who is seeing things in black and white.

And no, adding adjectives and qualifiers does make something untrue and changes the original meaning. If they didn't matter then why add them? Adding these adjectives is not a reflection of what was actually said or meant but rather it is a reflection of your interpretation or, the interpretation you would like to influence others to have. Let me make it more clear. When you post something that you attribute to me it is like you are quoting me. So it isn't about how you speak since you are quoting what I said. Therefore there is no need for judging what is true since there are objective facts, that is, my actual words. You can interpret then anyway you want (or need) but the actual words I used are not open to embellishment or editing. They are what they are.

Black and white world? You haven't been paying attention. I have pointed out how the Hillary haters see the world that way unless it is their guy. People want that black and white world until it doesn't benefit them. That's why they don't want to even discuss what Reagan did or what GWB did. They say, "they aren't running for president." Why? Because they don't want to admit that they don't really see things in black and white and acknowledge their tribal bias.

I am an admirer of Machiavelli so I definitely don't see the world in black and white.

LOL Let's see what happened, my concise abbreviated version, IMHO:

Noitsyou: Trump is a fascist.

Me: But I found a Georgetown prof who says, Trump loses at being facist according to his formula.

Noitsyou: Argues that the formula grading favors his POV, so why did I post it?

Me: Tries to explain the difference between Prof saying, "losing" at being fascist and Noitsyou's plainly stated, "Trump is fascist" by interjecting the word "complete". (Forgets to write: IMHO.... again!)

Noitsyou: Hates that I interjected the word complete, goes way off the deepend about it not being a true scientific formula because it is an opinion. (Paraphrased!)

Me: So what? Opinions suit this subject. (Paraphrasing now, because, truth be told, I am NOT trying too hard at this juncture.)

Noitsyou: beetree, you left something out and aren't thinking hard enough about all the effort I made to prove you are stupid and/or just lazy. That is why I know you are irrational. (Paraphrasing, again.)

Me: Now, who is being ridiculous? This argument is stupid and getting old. (Paraphrasing myself, now.) I left the whole bloody link for you to read, how is that a problem?

Noitsyou: I don't think you are actually reading and giving my posts the attention they deserve, because if you did then you would have to agree I am right and you wouldn't keep bringing up what that stupid Georgetown prof said. I of course, am a better prof than he will ever be. I've never been wrong about anything, ever. And no way will I ever be wrong or agree with anything you say, just out of principle.

And Harris is my idol. He actually proves philosophy with science that agrees with my take on beliefs. Who needs a God when we have Harris. Anyone who doesn't agree can't be intellectual. (Entirely paraphrased by me.) And never Trump.

Me: This conversation is getting old. Enough with the self-love, already!

Noitsyou: I never said Trump was a complete fascist! Stop spreading those nasty rumors! Please, all I want is accuracy and you keep flubbing it up. (Paraphrased!)

Me: You got to be kidding. I am growing old and grey because of an adjective?

Noitsyou: Damn it beetree! Pay attention! Trump is a fascist and there is no such thing as a "complete" fascist. Never has been and never will be such a thing. Your judgments suck, so please—just stop. You seriously haven't noticed my fascination with the dark triad? I don't wear grey, never have and never will. (Paraphrased!)

Me: :)))))))))))