Can excessive crating make a dog handler aggressive? - Page 1

I recently had a chance to keep an alleged handler aggressive dog at my home for a few weeks. The dog is an all bouncy and will not settle at all ( even after a solid 3 mile walk ).
He has bitten a previous owner and has attacked two handlers. At last place he was he was crated for very long hours each. I have ethical reasons against crating dogs for such long time and decided to let him run about in my basement. He has not shown me any agression but has started to associate me with food resource , bacause I was told to hand feed him ( no food agggression ).He routinely carries out his obedience commands and has showed zero aggression so far. Saturday will be his last day with me. But I wanted to ask anyone if handler aggression can be caused by excessive confinement. I reasonable think that this produces a kind of neurosis.

What is excessive  What is done to him while in the crate  What is done with him when not in the crate  What is he doing that one may call handler aggressive

Excessive to me is on the scale of 10 hrs or more per day. In the crate he lies down. When not crated he is exercised and worked for a few hours.
He bit the original owner in her face when he was asked to get off a bed. He bit handlers for being corrected on the leash during training.

But my question is that : does excessive crating lead to a kind of neurosis which results in redirected aggression.

If I lock my own dog in my bedroom and come back after about 4 hrs..chances are the bed will be torn and the door and molding bitten and scratched. If I leave her with full access to the house...no such thing happens. This tells me that spatial confinement for long periods could affect a dog.

I do train all of my dogs to be in a crate for 10 hours.  This is important for me and their safety as well as control of them and they learn control of themselves.

It has never made one of my dogs aggressive. Very playful and can nail you from energy but not aggression to me.

Dog being told to get off the bed and bites has no training or respect.

None of my dogs bite me for a correction but then they know why they are being corrected what they are expected to do and my corrections are fair.  A dog that bites just because I corrected it well a lot of things may transpire I will also look very closely at the dog temperament to see if he is worth it.

Your girl tearing up a room that you locked her in but OK when she has her way and run of the house. She is spoiled and misunderstood by you.

In my experience crating ( if long duration) can def cause frustration and amped up energy , which is desired trait in working dogs ..that's why many trainers crate , kennel dogs when not working them and not much roaming around is permitted ..big difference in energy , drive and personally than a house dog who kinda gets to roam a bit and has more freedom and exposur to the world.
I personally like to kennel / crate dogs untill they're about a year old and only out when working or exercising them personally , not only does it build up drive but i can shape their personality better and be better supervised. That crate is your friend.

When Taz was young & up to 2010, I had to crate him for a lot of the day and all night, as I was working, he was a terrible chewer of furniture, and because he was, like the dog under discussion, VERY hard to tire out and settle. Apart from some aggression developed LATER towards the veterinary profession (!), he was the least aggressive dog you could meet. Point is, he DID get out of the crate at frequent intervals through the day, as I worked 'on site' (it was a Staff Flat). And he was in experienced hands. So there was never any question of, for example, him trying to take over my bed. He never appeared unhappy or resentful, he was healthy and well exercised, and the correct weight. [It was also a very large, custom-built, crate, not a commercially available one, btw.]

Now, that was him. That was THAT situation. As Western Rider notes, the whys, hows and wherefores of the situation - how else the owner, or temporary custodian, relates to the crated dog is what the restless behaviour and/or handler-aggression are about.

BTW is this the dog you were telling us about which had 'no reaction' to the b. great weight falling over next to him in your last 'question'/thred ? Did his owner know you were going to subject his dog to such tests while he was boarded with you ?

@western
"Your girl tearing up a room that you locked her in but OK when she has her way and run of the house. She is spoiled and misunderstood by you."

I think confining a dog for so many hrs in a small space is just not so good.

Hund yes this is the dog..he has mostly old german lines: stalhammers, Eros and Sagus B Schloss, Grief, Racker, and some Haus Iris and Wlidsau.

Mithuna emergency arise and a dog MUST know how to crate.  Floods, fires, deaths, vet needs and who know what else will make it necessary for the dog to be crated and they need to know how to do it without going nuts. 

This does not mean they live this way but they need to know how when it is needed.

A room is not a small place, she is spoiled she wanted out of the room.  What would she do in a crate or even a kennel if she wanted back in the house. She needs to learn.

 

Yes, you already mentioned his breeding - will you see fit to answer my question, though ?