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BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 02 April 2016 - 20:04


A GSD who thinks the malinois is the bad guy , but the malinois

stays in his grip.

The K9 handlers are also a big shame ....I can,t believe what I see here.

 

 

https://vimeo.com/161314954







 


by hntrjmpr434 on 02 April 2016 - 21:04

Yeah shit move by the GSD's handler.

by vk4gsd on 02 April 2016 - 21:04

In the real world shit happens. Glad the dog and handler didnt get crushed by the attempted escape, that was way close to massive injury or death.

This is not abnormal behaviour for male dogs trained individually. happens when dominant dogs are not conditioned to work as a pack get on a prey animal.

I doubt many police condition dogs to attack in a pack for obvious reasons. Its not Israel.

Police just need to learn from it, no major thing. I'm sure armchair quarter backers will know how it should be done.


by hntrjmpr434 on 02 April 2016 - 21:04

It is possible that both handlers sent dogs at the same time, just that the Mal was closer than the GSD. Especially since it appeared that Mal and handler were pinned, maybe GSD handler thought they wouldn't go.
I agree with vk, I'm surprised they haven't trained both dogs on one man.
IMO they had way more than enough to shoot the guy.

by vk4gsd on 02 April 2016 - 21:04

There was a crowded restaurant nearby I believe so discharging firearms would be foolish and reckless.

by hntrjmpr434 on 02 April 2016 - 21:04

IMO there were multiple opportunities to make a safe shot, but to each their own.

by Gee on 02 April 2016 - 22:04

Should NEVER be about BREED specific, any dog who enages = STAR.

Feel free to show your own dogs - NOT play biting on a sleeve or suit, think I might be waiting a f ----kin long time.

Perhaps a reality check might be in order.


Gee



 


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 02 April 2016 - 23:04

This the reason the police don't need tanks to use against citizens and why when a cop or a K9 gets shot in an exchange of gunfire (supposedly) the first question should be was it friendly fire?? Either the second dog was sent by mistake or the GSD handler is an idiot for sending the second dog on purpose.

by vk4gsd on 03 April 2016 - 00:04

Gee what are you referring to, undercover equipment is no different to a sleeve or suit from to a trained dog a neither is a muzzle.

Dog sees it once then a suit, undercover gear, sleeve, muzzle are all exactly the same to a dog.

How anyone sees it different is beyond me.

by Gee on 03 April 2016 - 00:04

VK4 - huge difference:

Re a sleeve or suit - even a weak dog with enough exposure to that huge visual  trigger, will ignite a PLAY stimiluis and spark up at the the SIGHT of those pieces of equipment.

In the case of a sleeve - it is predictably presented to the dog at a very un natural angle from a human perspective, but presented perfectly for the dog - not how it happens on the street.

The angle a dog takes a kicking leg strike - which is the most common form of strike from a person to a dog, bears no resemblance to the pre meditated training of a perfectly presented ergonoic arm sleeve. (and guess what - a perfect full grip - goes out the window, the leg is vertical - the well presented arm is horizontal  - polar opposites. (but not to worry - a good  CIVIL dog will connect and break bone no mater the angle)

Re muzzle training - many dogs can eventually be persuaded to bite a well presented, non threatening sleeve or suit.

When you ask that same dog to take on the man, having tied the dogs hands behind it's back - figuratively speaking. You will find a MASSIVE drop out rate, in as much - most dogs do not have the confidence to fight the man when they can not use there main weapon - teeth.

Or put another way - if it was part of IPO / Shutzhund, far fewer dogs would make the grade.

Do you seriously think otherwise lol? 


That is why - one of the most desirable proofs of a competent dog, be it military, police or genuine PPD - is to see it consistently engage in the muzzle.

If you think you can persuade a weak dog to engage whilst muzzled - you can bring a horse to water springs to mind.

Regards
Gee






 


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