Germany's SV stance on breeding dogs with what OFA calls Fair Hips (passing) and Elbows Grade 1 DJD - Page 1

I understand Germany's SV has strict, regulated guidelines and requirements for the breeding of German Shepherd Dogs. I read somewhere their SV allows breedings of German Shepherd Dogs with what OFA calls Fair Hips (passing) hips and Elbows Grade 1 DJD (degenerative joint disease). Is this a myth or true?  

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The SV does not allow grade 1 elbows.
Judy

Thanks for the info on the Elbows Judy. Just curious as I thought they did. It didn't seem right that they would.

Can anyone explain the following to me on Elbow grading by the SV in Germany? I understand the hip gradings the SV has but not the elbow grading. The following excerpt was taken from the following website on the SV Rules for Breeders and Breeding by Fred Lanting http://vonjagenstadt.com/SVRules.html

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Findings of "Normal (no evidence of ED)", "Borderline case", and “Slight ED (‘ED-1’)” can have a stamp placed on the pedigree by the SV. Owners of dogs with ED degrees 2 and/or 3 are notified through the breed book office in writing.

Maybe I am just confused but where it says "Slight ED (ED - 1)" can have a stamp place on the pedigree by the SV is confusing. Does that mean they can go ahead and breed a dog stamped with this "Slight ED (ED-1)" grading? Is this the same as OFA Elbows Grade 1? Thanks for any information anyone can provide.

I had a dog with grade 1 several years back and received a letter from the SV stating that she was not acceptable for breeding.
Judy

OFA has a pass/fail elbow rating. It's OFA normal or fail. Germany recognizes OFA hips evaluations but does not recognize OFA elbow results. OFA went through the FCI certification process with their hips to be recognized but have not followed up with their elbows. When I talked to OFA they were not aware their elbows were not accepted and when I talked to the FCI to see what the process was to accept OFA elbows, they didn't know what had to be done to have them recognized. There you have it. OFA results are accepted by the SV. No OFA elbows no matter how beautiful they are can be accepted.

The SV's ED grade 1 is 'noch zugelassen' (still acceptable) for breeding. The SV's procedure and classification is not equivalent to OFA rating, it is more nuanced.

There are several different conditions that are lumped together under the name "elbow dysplasia'. The rating depends in part on what the issue is.

The SV has two detailed explanations of their elbow diagnostic system on their web page, both in German. Even if you don't have German, it might be worthwhile downloading: http://www.schaeferhunde.de/der-deutsche-schaeferhund/zucht-und-aufzucht/bekaempfung-von-hd-ed/

This table in the article by Dr. Bernd Tellheim (one of the pdfs) relates the grading system to the medical findings in the radiolographs. Iff you share it, please always provide the source with it (Dr. Bernd Tellheim: Erläuterungen zum ED-Verfahren im Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde e.V, SV-Zeitung, downloaded from http://www.schaeferhunde.de/der-deutsche-schaeferhund/zucht-und-aufzucht/bekaempfung-von-hd-ed/):

 

Thank you, Living, I was still searching for a translation of Tellhelm´s text...

"There are several different conditions that are lumped together under the name "elbow dysplasia'. The rating depends in part on what the issue is."

More than difficult to explain ( or understand ), maybe you are able to translate - too much for me...

The SV's grading system is based on the recommendations of the "International Elbow Working Group".
The IEWG web page is in English: http://www.vet-iewg.org/