panda gene in fawn - Page 1

I am sure most of us remember the Frankie controversy (Panda shepherd) ? Many people were convinced he was a mixed breed. Even after genetic testing was done, some were STILL convinced that he wasn't pure GSD, because his parents hadn't been tested.

Well, here's proof a panda-type mutation can crop up unexpectedly in other species, too! No question of THIS deer being a mixed breed!

He is being bottle fed, as his mother rejected him, probably due to his strange colouration.

Edit: further investigation shows he inherited a rare piebald gene from his mother, so this was not a spontaneous mutation, as it was in Frankie's case.

Here's more info: http://www.nyantler-outdoors.com/piebald-deer.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/02/rejected-white-faced-fawn-michigan_n_7494792.html

Ah, well, I should have know some human meddling was involved.

Rudolph!

A couple of years ago there was a pure white doe that made it to our news channels. It was in Iowa. Beautiful!

 

http://homegrowniowan.com/albino-deer-attracting-attention-near-solon-iowa/

 

 

Idunno, maybe it has a little Siberian Husky in it.

The pied gene exists in a lot of animals. It's unusual, but not unheard of. I've seen a pied deer in the wild back home, also saw a wild melanistic deer; what we called a "black-buck." 

This is my ball python, Alice. She's a piebald ball python: the mututation being, in her species at least, nothing more exotic than a simple recessive... albeit a very flashy one. In canines, the trait has emerged several times in wild animals: red foxes, "fur" foxes, and coyotes. I've never seen a piebald wolf or jackal, but I'm sure it could happen.

Personally, I love the pied look in all animals, and think Frankie is a stunning looking GSD. Ironically, in snakes, the objective of a breeding program is to produce the most unusual colours and patterns. A "normal" ball python can be found as cheap as $20 from a breeder, but some of the most unique morphs (funky colour/patterns are called "morphs") I've seen have been over $30,000 USD.

Of course, just like in the dog world, there are certain breeders who can charge exorbitant prices based on the reputation their name provides. The same quality animal may be found for significantly less from a small scale hobby breeder.

 

(Alice, the Piebald Ball Python)

 

For those of you unfamiliar with snakes, for comparrison this is one of my other ball pythons, a "normal" animal.

(Tic, a Normal ball python)

 

When you start mixing different genes, you can come up with some really unusual specimens that, aside from structure, look nothing like the wild type. One of my snakes, Oz II, shows three expressed traits: two co-dominant, and one is dominant. There are animals on the market these days showing as many as seven expressed traits. 

(Oz II, a Lesser Bee Yellow Belly ball python -- he's one of my males)

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Well, I'm done talking about snakes. Please excuse the temporary hijack. Genetics and animal husbandry is a passion of mine; and while with my GSDs I elect to stick to the standard, I wouldn't mind it if unusual colours and patterns were more warmly received in the dog world. I love beauty in diversity; especially the pied variety.

That little fawn is stunning! Absolutely gorgeous!

The pied coyotes and wolves get labeled crosses right away with no proof. I enjoyed Alice's picture :)

I went on a lookabout and found pied moose and camel as well 

I found this today, while actually looking up something somewhat related:

 

I was looking for piebald primates.

There are more than one white spotting gene.  The gene that is best known is the recessive Irish white spotting gene.  However, the Panda gene is, like most mutations, a spontaneous mutation gene that is dominant.  Because the Panda gene is dominant, it can appear in any progeny of a Panda parent.  Thus, it can certainly appear in a fawn GSD that has a Panda parent.  It is also possible that the spontaneous mutation for Panda could occur again in progeny of non-Panda parents although the Panda mutation is clearly a very rare one.

I think GSDGenetics is Right... 

The Chimp is really interesting looking!