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Dawolf 


To Kevin Frank and OGBS:  I have tried throughout my comments on this
thred to ensure it is clear I have no particular axe to grind against Molly
(other than that I do find it disturbing that her name comes up here in a
bad way so often - and not in posts started by herself or others for 'fun').

Indeed I have said that I think a public enquiry would give Molly the chance to
openly & formally clear things up & justify herself.  However (notwithstanding my
'Britishness' and the relevence of the War of Independance !), surely the issue goes
wider than 'Molly', in that I'm discussing the general principals of accountability and  
openness in complaints procedures of USCA, and other Clubs for that matter.

I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong, but it seems even if I joined USCA as an
overseas member, before I could bring a grievance against anyone who is another USCA
member or Officer, even one possibly relying on any elected post as an aid to boost
his or her reputation with the buying public, I would have to have a personal compaint
against the member concerned, s/he would have to have wronged ME in some way.
I could not bring a grievance on behalf of third parties.
I would argue that USCA and similar organisations should institute an amending clause
to the Board of Inquiry (or other relevant) brief in its Rules, because there is no guarantee
that any even worse case than what Molly does or does not do won't sometime be just
around the corner - and you do not seem to have a clear way to deal with it.


Sure, anyone could 'file' fake legal papers, civil or criminal, against a breeder on here.
But they are equally likely to reproduce copies of real ones. IMO (and I do have some
consumer / paralegal experience, so I do know what goes on, and what actions are
likely).

she sounds like such an upstanding and ethical person.  One people should turn to for advice LOL.  Make excuses, give "her side" for her I don't care.  I've seen her conduct herself like a flippin child enough to not give a crap what she ever does the rest of her life, as long as it doesn't affect me.  I've seen how she treats dogs, how she treats people, and you know what else?   One thing that really stands out is not long ago she was on here defending her relationship with gool 'Ol Timmothy Helser.  

She was saying how nobody had "facts" and just "stuff" from the interenet.  Never mind it was court documents, first hand stories, pictures of dogs with ruptured tumors and the videos themselves of him "working" ( a term used very loosely) dogs.  Her complete lack of judgement concerning a POS like Helser and then to have the freakin balls to come on here and defend her idiocy???????????  She can rot for all I care.  I doubt she's done a dog or a person right  if it didn't mean money in her pocket.  

I can see how things can be misrepresented on the net.  I've seen it first hand as well.  I can forgive a misgiving, it happens to everyone.  But after a while, things start to add up.  The professionalism, level of integrity, etc can all be misrepresented on the internet.  Some have used the net to build themselves quite the internet following and lately it seems to  be taking a hit, time after time.  I guess sometimes real life will catch up to you.

BTW  OGBS,  if all USCA wants / used to want is a Tattooist,
why not call the role 'Breed Tattooist', rather than Breed Warden ?
Obviously a regional 'Breed Warden' in the US cannot be as full
a role as it is in Germany, in re breeding choices etc;  but if one
hears the term one assumes it is a role held - and designed to be
held - by a person experienced in the breed, who can assist and
advise members with their dogs and issues relating to their keep-
ing, training and breeding;  a role at least based on the German
version, if without much of the work expected in Germany.  It is
disingenuous of you to say someone holding this role has zero
influence.  Even if it is only the influence on someone misinformed,
who expects the Warden to be an upright and knowledgeable adviser,
a la the German system, and then finds out the hard way that this is
merely a scam title used by USCA (what else can I call it but 'scam' ?)

I think a sham title is more appropriate that she then uses to her advantage to scam people :)

zdog    


Also: re Mystere's very helpful reproduction of the Procedures 
on a new thred,  I still do not think the USCA is helping itself
or its members in tackling this sort of situation.  Nia, I'll PM
you with details of why I think that, having read the actual
document.  [ Hope you do not take juvenile exception to someone
trying to make a useful suggestion, not because of the content of
what's said, but simply because it comes from a non-American.]  

Sad to say, I am getting more sympathetic to those posters,
including bubbabooboo, who keep saying things are not well
with this organisation !

Things are fine with the org, they aren't perfect.  But dont think this lends any credence to that bozo who's never done anything in anything and has never belonged to even know.  It's not the org's fault nobody ever brings stuff to the BOI.  I do believe in this current leadership.  I think they are good men with good intentions.  I don't think that was always the case however, but such is life.  EVERYTHING goes thru high's and low's, dog orgs included.  

 

That tended to be my position on USCA, looking in from the outside;
but I do now start to get a bit of insight into why some people are
less generous of spirit than you, zdog, towards the club (EVEN bubba !)

I agree with a lot of the posters that her Note worthy reputation seems to be one of ruffling feathers and carries a lot of her Personal life into the dog ring ,,.,,

Then she also trashed two Trainers I am well aware of were OUT RIGHT LIES she just conjured up for no reason.. I tried to talk to her about one of them and she threw an EXCUSE to me that would not hold Lemonaide in it... I knew the truth and just logged in my mind since she did not ever bother me or have any thing to say negative to me , as none of my business but I did stand up for one of those people and GSD travels stood firm for the other person she trashed.. Unkind words seem to get her in BIG trouble instead of using her intelligence first. She has trained awesome dogs at given times and holds tons of ribbons and scores of trophies for her once good days

Two sides to all stories and sometimes THREE..

YR

USCA can file charges as an organization. The president or secretary can file with the BOI on behalf of USCA without the need to post a fee to submit charges. Don't just lay this at the feet of a member.


Keith

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