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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 30 November 2013 - 13:11

Rarely  hear of any dog, even those in more difficult breeds to sedate / anaesthetise
(eg Rough Collies)  being particularly made ill by a sedation session, much less killed
by that.  Completely different from the risks of anaesthesia IMO - and you have to also
acknowledge that with modern drugs, the proportion of dogs treated who react badly
is tiny, these days, set against the overall numbers on which it is used (for everything).

My mentor at one time used to have her dogs hips done by a human radiologist (!) who
allowed her to help,  but later hip scoring, after that was no longer possible, averaged 
much the same results in her stock.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 30 November 2013 - 13:11

Seldom hear of animals or humans suffering death or harm due to mistakes made at hospitals and vet offices but it is a huge problem and is the third leading cause of death for human patients in the USA.

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death.

That would make medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease, which is the first, and cancer, which is second.


by Blitzen on 30 November 2013 - 13:11

And that has what to do with sedating dog for hips xrays, Bubba?

So far you have made cases for not titling breeding stock -  IPO is a joke and proves nothing. Now you are making excuses for not xraying dogs before breeding. I've looked at your website and I see  no mention of certified hips, elbows, any sort of titling, or other health information on your dogs yet you breed multiple litters. However you do say that you are a trainer and think that titling is important and that dogs you sell will either be subjected to Penn Hips or OFA exams.

mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 30 November 2013 - 14:11

I can guarantee you have not been talking to the right vets in central NC. Every discipline has people that charge too much and then people that are fair. How about you drive down to Benson and go to Carolina Crossing, ask for an appointment with Dr. Dawn Flood and get a price quote. Actually, the first thing you should have done anyway is get vet recommendations for the area, the board has been very helpful to me in the past.

Or, continue making some sort of "point" instead.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 30 November 2013 - 14:11

Actually Dawn Flood was one of the vets charging me $350 to $400  .. I know because I paid her and I am just not blowing smoke about how wonderful everything is and how veterinarians are your friends just doing what is best for you and your dogs.  Veterinarians run a profit making business and I can trust them as much as WalMart or Home Depot to do what is best for me and my dogs.  Check on Dawn Flood's dog Odyn vom Mystical Haus .. she told me that dog had OFA dysplastic hips and that she put him in the OFA "public" database .. yet when I checked the database he was not there????  Then tell me again about how honest vets are with their customers.  

melba

by melba on 30 November 2013 - 14:11

Actually, with all the free stuff my vet has handed me and services I haven't been charged for, I don't feel like mine is trying to make a buck off of me. The other vets there at his practice are not so, save for one.

Melissa

mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 30 November 2013 - 14:11

Fair enough, then she's changed her prices. I still think you would be better served asking for recommendations rather than stirring the pot.

howlk9

by howlk9 on 30 November 2013 - 14:11

Why shouldn't vets make money? We expect them to have all this equipment for x-rays, surgeries, and whatever. We want them to know about the latest treatments and issues, deal with a dozen species and a hundred breeds. On top of that, they can rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for college before they ever start practicing. It is just a business like any other and if the market will pay what they charge, then that's what they will charge whether that's $95 or $600.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 30 November 2013 - 14:11

Off the subject so we will need a new thread to start on another topic.  $30 for 6 ounces of antiseptic solution when a gallon is $15 and OTC .. just one example.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 30 November 2013 - 15:11

Vets can charge what they want but getting together and setting prices for everyone in an area or state is price fixing and illegal.  No amount of vet school costs makes price fixing legal .. it is a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act.

definition of price fixing
.. The intent of price fixing may be to push the price of a product as high as possible, leading to profits for all sellers but may also have the goal to fix, peg, discount, or stabilize prices. The defining characteristic of price fixing is any agreement regarding price, whether expressed or implied.


 





 


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