DDR, Czech and West Germany working bloodline - Page 2

Did you actually see the parents of this pup do anything? It will turn out much like its parents.
Bloodlines whatever. Look a4 month old pup should be driving you crazy not bored with any toy. Nothing to do with bloodline. Everything to do with finding a real working breeder AMD testing parents.
You may just have a lazy pet. And for many, that is what they want.

a 4 month old puppy i would assume would be very playful but not 100% of the time after a toy. 10 to 15 mins of drive for a toy is alot for such a little mind i would say work with him for like 5 mins 2x a day with just playing with him with the toy you want him to focus on and end it with him being very focued on the toy and wanting it but dont let him have it and then put the toy away the next time you bring the toy out he will want it more and fight harder to get the toy but you have to remember their tiny teeth and teething can effect how much they want to interact with toys till about 6 months. i wouldent say he is a lazy pet we havent seen a video or have near enough information to call him that.

DaryI   with all due respect I completely disagree with your statement:
I'm a believer of the blanket statement that WGWL dogs ARE easier to train.  And SOONER.  Though I've had DDR based Czech lines that late-bloom nicely and would be "easy" to train at 2 years with prey/retrieve, or even 4 years for protection work, but who the heck wants to wait that long on the chance of having a dud?  That's just TOO slow to measure your progress as a breeder, and a perfect example of WHY DDR type bloodlines are failing to impact any competitive training venues of note.  For every ONE DDR dog you find that's accomplished in ANY competitive ring, there are HUNDREDS of WGWL dogs doing the same, and better.  Love'em too, myself, but I'm not going to fool myself about the practical truth.

In direct  opposition to that statement I would say  WG dogs may be  easier to train in sport.  Sport however  is not all work(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) GSD should be able to do, but it is only one narrow function of a working dog.  SV and competitiveness of people in Germany and elsewhere in Europe promotes by its scheme  narrow spectrum of dogs abilities to do sport. This is achieved mainly  by promoting high to extreme prey drive and omitting natural protectiveness through courage based  defense, aloofness, investigative abilities, alertness, territoriality and I can go on for quite a long time more.   The DDR and Czech dogs  of old type  were bred for work in general. "z Pohranicni straze" dogs for example, were bred to guard border where the sport dog would fail with their SchH type tracking and SchH type bite work and so on and on.  In early days of z PS Czech dogs were considered unable to compete and thus be registrable. Thus z PS started to compete so that they could be included in the breeding program of the Czech  GS club. These dogs achieved these titles for purpose to be proven to be breed worthy. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE  ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THE SchH or ZVV  test. That is before  this testing  degenerated into a sport. 
I would also like to state that true working dogs were always bred for :
Longevity,
early workability and 
long age and long workability. 
Where sport dog breeders rarely care about longevity or long workability of the breed since most  dogs retire  from top competition not later then at 4 maybe 5 years then they breed for a while and then they are useless for the breeder and taking space in a kennel . Where working dogs are an investment for the sheepherder or police or for family or wkat ever working purpose and they do want the dog to live as long as possible for economical and emotional reason. 
Thus yes the dogs which are  bred for narrow purpose of sport with their extreme drives will do better in sport  then old style Czech or DDR more versatile  dog.
Narrow purpose and breeding of dogs with extreme often onesided drives is destroying the GSD. That can be obvious from onslaught of of other breeds which in past were inferior to old style working GSD in one way or another. 
Remember GSD is  not an extreme bred but it is extremely  versatile breed. 
Prager Hans
 

Hey Ace959 why is it nonesense explain.

Well stated Prager.  

However, each person is entitled to his own opinion.  All opinions made here are correct. Prager stated the different reasons upon which we should base our opinions.  he gave us something to think about, not argue about.  JMO

Thanks Hans

i am new here and i am extremely sorry for posting this here but i want your views about the following dogs and what do you think their puppies would be like would the pups be worth a buy?

I once again apologise for being irrelevant but i want the answer as soon as possible.

father: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=714182

mother: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=636911

this would really help me.

@simonjohndaniel  Welcome to PDB The best thing to do is start a new post should get lots of helpful info Good Luck

 Hutchins. There is only one truth and many opinions which are far or near to the truth. Yes everybody is entitled to his opinion as long as that is where it stops. At an opinion.  If someone has wrong opinion and proceeds to build on it or enforce it then that is not what such person is entitled to. I am talking here only in general terms and not about any particular opinion here. 

@ Minicus

Thank you! I just did
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