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by Keith Grossman on 04 December 2012 - 15:12

"So what is the point of testing if the result doesn't mean anything anyway?"

The test does mean something...it tells you the status of your dog for one of the forms of DM. Is a test for EPI, for example, invalid because it doesn't tell you if your dog has HD?

by Blitzen on 04 December 2012 - 15:12

No one knows that for sure, depends on who is doing the talking. It's like most other health tests - it's available, use it or don't use it. If you buy a dog, require it or don't. It's optional. Surf the net, go to the OFA website, learn all about it and make an informed decision as to whether or not it's important to you .Some breeders uses all the tools at hand, some use only the ones that they feel are important to their breeding programs. People who have had a GSD with DM seem to be more concerned that they know the status of their next dog.I'd want to know too.

by Hundmutter on 04 December 2012 - 15:12

VK surely seeing 'clear' in an ad. should just make the buyer aware of what questions
to ask, with the current arguments about the validity of the test. I wouldn't 'assume' nuttin' ...

by joanro on 04 December 2012 - 15:12

Keith, BINGO !! I have been saying that til I'm out of breath. This DNA test does NOT test for GSD DM.
Klewis, yes. Breeding at risk to clear is acceptable, especially since the whole purpose of testing is to not produce dogs which might develop the DM. From what I've read in an article by, I don't remember..Whitley, perhaps, GSDs don't usually develop the DM this test is for.
Just for the record, after having tested my dogs, in retrospect I have NOT produced a single pup that is "at risk". That and $5. will get me a cup of coffee at star bucks.

by Blitzen on 04 December 2012 - 15:12

Good points, Keith.

by VKGSDs on 04 December 2012 - 16:12

Hundmutter, I personally do not assume anything, I just ask to see the results, but I guess I don't think it is fair to advertise a dog as "clear" when it's not, regardless of how I personally feel about the test and it's value.

by Kaffirdog on 04 December 2012 - 16:12

Hi Keith

Of course I wouldn't expect an EPI test to tell me if a dog had HD, but I would expect it to tell me reliably if it had EPI or not, why do it otherwise? Unless I am misunderstanding Joanro, the DM test does not test for GSD DM, so it doesn't sound like it is likely to be any help to GSD breeders. Is there any evidence that GSDs suffer from any other type of DM? Anyone had a GSD test as "at risk" that has gone on to develop DM and, if so, is there any evidence that it was not at risk from GSD DM anyway since the test doesn't cover it?

Margaret N-J

by Keith Grossman on 04 December 2012 - 16:12

"Unless I am misunderstanding Joanro, the DM test does not test for GSD DM, so it doesn't sound like it is likely to be any help to GSD breeders. Is there any evidence that GSDs suffer from any other type of DM?"

Yes, they can suffer from either. My point was that these are two separate conditions; why not test for the one we can and for both when/if we ever get that capability?

by laura271 on 04 December 2012 - 16:12

I'm going to test Bosco at two different labs to see if the results are consistent (he's already been tested by the OFA). If I get a different result (as my friend did) then the issue will be even murkier.

by Keith Grossman on 04 December 2012 - 16:12

What labs other than OFA do this test?

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