by khlewis on 04 December 2012 - 05:12
*just want to clarify that I have no issues with this breeder, just curious about how the wording of the ad is taken by others*
by eichenluft on 04 December 2012 - 07:12
by supakamario on 04 December 2012 - 09:12
by bcrawford on 04 December 2012 - 10:12
The whole flipped up issue with carriers is that two carriers make it happen! Why risk it? The more I learn about this the more I'm petrified going forward.. It's not this serious but would you have you know... umm .. yeah.. "relations" with someone who has some kind of issue? Well, no.. I would not.. So why breed dogs where one has a issue? Sure, it's not AIDS but why? It's only hurting them and the people that have expectations of bringing the animal in their life. It's takes a special kind of dumbass not to appreciate what a good GSD can bring to your life. Someone is presented with the pleasure of meeting a friends "Well bred GSD" .. Strong note of well bred.. And they turn out on a mission to find that same level of dog only to screwed over with a dog that is all mangled up well before the bell tolls for thee'.... Tell the person who posted the ad that she needs to think about life and not her bank account.
@supa .. DM is Degenerative Myelopathy. It is a disease of the spinal cord in dogs. It is a very sad and yet retchid disease that is progressive (gets worse).... It starts out as loss of coordination and eventually leads to total loss of movement in the rear of the animal. They are reduced to dragging themselves across the ground. It's just as horrid as HD except worse. It's not a physical issue (example socket wear or failure) but more of a neuro issue because the brain can no longer instruct that portion of the body to move.
Sadly German Shepherd Myelopathy is unique to the breed and breeders that are breeding without this test should be dragged out to the nearest ally and worked over.. Twice.
(Excuse any typo's... it's been a long day.. coming to a end - via a good Bourbon.. too tired to proof it)
by Keith Grossman on 04 December 2012 - 13:12
That could theoretically mean that both parents were carriers.
by joanro on 04 December 2012 - 13:12
Keith, I agree.....not at risk does not mean clear.
by khlewis on 04 December 2012 - 13:12
Both parent were tested and the mother is clear, but the father is a carrier.
I have been told by many longtime breeders that eliminating the population of DM carrier would significantly decrease the gene pool for the GSD. A couple of my girls are carriers, but are always bred to clear males and any puppies going on full registration must be tested and clear prior to sale. I figured that keeps the bloodlines going, but eliminates the DM in them. I sell very few breeding dogs anyways. Most of my puppies are high quality family pets, which is how I like it, and they go with a spay/neuter agreement.
by laura271 on 04 December 2012 - 13:12
by Jenni78 on 04 December 2012 - 13:12
I know the ad in question. I remember reading it and thinking it was a case of someone being ignorant and just blindly following what the 'good breeders' told them they should do. They didn't really seem to understand what it was they were saying/advertising. They meant "clear" as in shouldn't develop DM (if the test is even that valid), not that neither parent or the pups couldn't be a carrier. From a practical standpoint, I get what they're saying, but to those of us who understand the Punnett square terms, clear, carrier, affected, it's very misleading.
by khlewis on 04 December 2012 - 14:12
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