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by hexe on 27 November 2012 - 05:11

trixx, but again, you're not factoring in the location of this pup.  In Germany, in the US,  in Canada, the EU--yes, this would be a pet quality puppy, not a show and breeding prospect.  In countries where the importation and breeding of European-line GSDs is still in its infancy, however, this could be a top male puppy.  It will depend on how he matures.

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 27 November 2012 - 06:11

if he is truly as tall & as long as he appears in the video, he may have just grown awfully fast for an 8 mo old.
i have to agree with keith that better physical condition/strength would make a difference in the way he
moves.  at this age, you have to be careful, though.  it would be very easy to injure him---he's still very much
a puppy.  i sure wouldn't write this guy off, yet.  he may be an entirely different dog by the time he matures.
good luck.  pjp

Khaled Sohib

by Khaled Sohib on 27 November 2012 - 08:11


@ Siantha,
thanks for the reply, the parents are Gick di Casa Nobili & Maly di Ca' San Marco.

@ J Basler,
:)) Thanks alot, ur cheering did helped :)))

@ bcrawford,
I am not sure what u mean by duplicate post but I was trying to post a video for the first time so may be I duplicated my post  by mistake, sorry!

Unfortunately I am not giving him a proper daily Consistent exercise, long walks daily, fitching the ball every 3 or 4 days for a while, going to beach once a week or two but starting to swim maybe last couple of times coz before that it was just socializing him with water but I intend to do better very soon.

@ dragonfry & Jenni78,
I am feeding him chicken backs bones, minced chicken, low fat minced beef, veal cubes. with rice and vegetables and started to give him veal liver.
he is on supplements ( multi vitamins tablets, calcium tablets and Grizzly Salmon oil but unfortunately I don't remember the tablets name I will post the name when I get back home.
I had him since he was around 4 months.

@ Keith Grossman,
I hope so, for exercising 8 months GSD is fitching the ball, swimming and long walks enough or there is more and I don't know?

@ hexe
definitely I will go check with a vet, I am living in Dubai which is sure not known for good GSDs :) but he is imported and from a very good pedigree. I just want to make sure he is good for his sake.

@ Kalibeck
thanks alot Jackie, I hope so.

@ trixx
thank you !

 

by Gustav on 27 November 2012 - 12:11

I don't see anything normal about the structure presented....I have never had a puppy with extremes like this puppy and I think my puppies are normal. Maybe I am missing something.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 27 November 2012 - 12:11

I knew it! GET HIM OFF THOSE CALCIUM SUPPLEMENTS RIGHT NOW if it's not already too late!! He is getting likely WAY too much between chicken backs (way too much bone, not sure why everyone thinks a dog can exist on chicken backs alone, and I don't mean you- this is so prevalent) and other bones and a puppy's body cannot assimilate it the way it needs to, especially in synthetic form; their bodies are not as good as an adult's body for ridding themselves of what they don't need, so they absorb way too much. There are journals suggesting too much calcium can cause elbow dysplasia just by itself, with no other factors. I sincerely hope it's not too late for him. I would feed him as if he is a giant breed puppy from here on out and hope to undo some of the damage that's undoubtedly been done already. 

I need to go to work, but this site has a lot of info on orthopedic disorders and nutritional approaches to fixing them. http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/puppy_feed_program_2009_htm.htm  There are also photos of various disorders and what the best course is for fixing them. 

trixx

by trixx on 27 November 2012 - 18:11

as of right now, he does not look so good but yes , he can straighten out in his front and back, but the tail is only going to get worst as he gets older , i know this for sure.
i have also seen  east and west feet go straight, give him a few years and see what you have then, to me it seems like you are doing the right thing in both excercise and feeding.  good luck-

Khaled Sohib

by Khaled Sohib on 28 November 2012 - 06:11


I booked an appointment with the vet for Saturday and I hope it isn't too late.

but TRIXX I don't know what's wrong with his tail ?! do u mean its a show quality thing or what??!!

Thanks

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 28 November 2012 - 12:11

I'm sorry to sound negative, but the likelihood of your vet knowing enough about canine nutrition (particularly large breed growth) isn't very good. I would maybe shoot some xrays if he were my dog, see how growth plates are looking from elbow to "wrist" (be sure to get good view of distal physis), as that will give an idea of how much better/worse he could possibly get. If he has one bone growing and one not, there are procedures that can be done to straighten those feet. Excessive East/West feet can put strain on other joints, and one bone that's stopped growing will make his elbows not fit right and his anconeal process may not unite. But beyond xrays to tell you what the joints look like (and many vets aren't even good at that...) I don't think you're going to get much help from your vet, unfortunately. 

A proper diet does NOT need supplements, in puppyhood, at least not minerals. If you want to supplement, stick with digestive enzymes, probiotics, maybe some kelp-type additives, etc. 

I have no idea what Trixx means about his tail, either. 

Here are a couple links explaining findings about harmful supplements.

https://www.msu.edu/~silvar/hips.htm
http://www.lgd.org/library/Optimal%20feeding%20of%20large%20breed%20puppies.pdf



Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 November 2012 - 16:11

Assumed Trixx meant the sideways hook.
Its 'cos the tail is a bit too long - a common
fault.  Don't think you can do much about
it, although I'm with you Jenni on the excess
calcium & maybe that hasn't helped ...


Khaled Sohib

by Khaled Sohib on 29 November 2012 - 06:11


jenni, I am sure u mean good ofcourse but I can't tell u how much worried u made me ! let's hope for the best, and please keep following this post I will write back after seeing the vet.

Thanks





 


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