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sueincc

by sueincc on 11 February 2009 - 23:02

 He is only 5 months old and the ear stood before he started teething?  There is a good chance the ear will come back up. Both the FCI and SV standards mention small inconspicuous white marking on the chest is permitted but not desirable.  It is not uncommon for the white on chest and toes to fade out and almost disappear as puppies mature.

 As far as his back, I would get a second opinion.  The fact that  your vet has treated GSDs for 30 years and went to Cornell does not make him infallible, unfortunately he is human and therefore can make mistakes or errors  in judgment.


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 11 February 2009 - 23:02

OMG! Even if the puppy is "physically healthy" and pain-free, how could anyone consider it normal and acceptable for a GSD to look like an inchworm on the move? Forget the small white patch... that's meaningless... if that were my pup I'd be seeking out a spine specialist! Hopefully the dog can live a long and loved life despite this deformity. At least he's in the hands of someone who loves him.

by jayne241 on 11 February 2009 - 23:02

 Hi Joe,

Well I'm certainly not "experienced" either (no titling or shows or anything) but he looks unhappy or in pain to me as well.

I guess the best way to describe it would be by comparing to photos of other dogs - running, leaping, playing in the snow; or standing still, head up, ears forward (even if weak), alert expression, eye contact.

For example (and I'm in no way connected with this dog, I hope this is ok; I'm presenting this as a good comparison):

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/picturegallery/8402.html

How is your dog's movement?  Can he run and jump?  Does he want to, or does he have to be coaxed?

I'd sure like a second opinion from a vet.

JRANSOM

by JRANSOM on 12 February 2009 - 00:02

VinegarJoe,

I did not see where Mystere implied that your weren't being a "diligent owner". 
What she said was,  " That is why we, particularly folks actively involved in training performance events, must be very, very vigilant.  "
Sorry, but it also looks to me like in the photos that he is in pain or unhappy but that is a still and I am not there to see his puppy antics and zest for life.

Jen

dogshome9

by dogshome9 on 12 February 2009 - 00:02

Hi Joe,

What I see here are poor photos, in every photo he is just standing not even 4 square, his hind feet are under his loin. Go out there with him and get some moving shots and show him just being a puppy having fun and you will see a puppy with a much better top line and a happier look on his face  .  or take some photos of him stacked and then we can gain a better opinion.

PS   My dogs also get that sad sack look on their faces when they see me coming with the camera.

 


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 12 February 2009 - 00:02

All I can tell you is that isn't what I am looking for in a German Shepherd Dog,
he seems a bit crippled to me,

I am breeding dogs that can scale a 7 foot fence within seconds and still smile.

I am going to try and get a Schutzhund title on one of my dogs, but as it stands, right now

I am getting great feedback from people who have got dogs from me and some are very experienced

in training the GSD and some are beginners, but they have no question that their dog is the best,

my dogs I breed don't really have that much angulation.

In my personal opinion, I would not pair up his parents again and breed them.

I do repeat breedings, same 2 dogs over again if I like the results, I hate surprises.

I hate to say it, but the only time I have seen a dog stand like that is after he had been hit by an automobile

What you have is a happy healthy pup that doesn't know he is over angulated,

don't treat him any different, exercise him like a regular dog, and he'll be happy


Xeph

by Xeph on 12 February 2009 - 01:02

That dog isn't even CLOSE to overangulated.  He doesn't have much angle in the rear at all.  That is ALL his spine x.x

MygsdRebel

by MygsdRebel on 12 February 2009 - 01:02

Before concluding the worst, try and get an appropriate stacked picture of him. It's hard to glean much about his confirmation in the posted photos.
-Emily

Mystere

by Mystere on 12 February 2009 - 04:02

Joe, You are being entirely too defensive. YOU asked about the pusp's back and you were given HONEST opinions, based on what YOU provided. In NO WAY did I implyl insinuate, or hint that you were less than diligent or negligent. Trust me, I will not respond to any of your inquiries in the future, because you obviously DO NOT want honest input, or opinions. You want an echo. I suggest that you simply speak into an empty tin can in the future, so you can hear what you want to hear more efficiently.

by atc237 on 12 February 2009 - 04:02

This is why asshole showline breeders should go to jail. Vine, i would have a specialist look at the dog and get an opinion





 


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