Stud Fee prices - Page 2

Just collecting, chilling and shipping the semen comes to over $200. That doesn't leave much for the stud fee. SS

On collecting/chilling and shipping semen.....do you do it yourself or have the vet do it? 

 

Fedex overnight to almost anywhere in the lower 48 US States is $60 or less.

Kenney Extender is $30 or less for 100ml vial. 

Styrofoam cooler box, cool packs, packing material, syringes....all under $10 total, less if you save your boxes from when you have vaccines, or anything chilled, sent to you.

That's about $100.  The insemination, progesterone test, etc. will be an expense, but the collection/chilling and shipping isn't more than $100 unless you're 1) price gouging or 2)having it all done by the vet and have no control over what they charge.



 

 To be honest..... I wold never breed those females... asking so much from males... and having females without titles and korung... shame on you

What is *reasonable*  as in not whats cheap (G) is that you do what is acceptable to both you and a stud owner.. You dont do what you are NOT able to or cant deliver on... then later point blame at others for your misconceptions on what is reasonable or realistic.

From what I have seen in the Western United States and most of the USA stud fees range from 900 to 1200 YOU go stud. Shipped and chilled semen prices vary. YOU discuss in an adult fashion with the stud owner and read a clearly printed, not over worded clear on the  stud contract ..then YOU decide what to do..

Than goodness in my country ..you dont have to do anything and you dont have blame others for your choices.

Very simple IMO.

Debi
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Stud owners, such as Filo, Molly, Kandi, and Sue might further enlighten us all. Many, if not most stud ads for workingline dogs have language like "to approved bitches." Now, I always understood that to mean bitches that are themselves titled, perhaps koered, have health clearances (including brucellosis), sometimes recommendation/references regarding working ability and temperament, etc. As Larry indicated, the stud tends to get the blame for what turns out. As for Sch I studs, I mention one word: Tarzan.

I wasn't even going to respond as a stud owner, because I wouldn't be interested at all in accepting any fee at all for the females described by the OP.  In other words "no thanks".   But to answer Mystere's comment - yes I offer my titled stud dogs to "approved females".  That normally means titled (Schh1 at least, or advanced obedience, police, SAR, HGH - something the dog has earned to make it proven to work.  No, not just CD or BH and definately not "working on it", will get it after this litter or when owner's kids graduate from highschool and they have more time to get the titles.  "real" title of some sort, preferably Schh if the dogs are being bred for working - and if they are not being bred for working - then why use my stud dogs, with the goal of producing pets?  I think not.  KKl or not, I would not agree to breed any of my boys to a coatie, soft ears or off-color, dentition problem or a female with faulty temperament that I knew about.  I try to do my research but when I accept a female I reserve the right to contact the owner right away and refuse the breeding, if the female comes out of the crate and shows poor temperament or nerve or something I don't want to breed.  Bloodlines matter - not interested in breeding to american show or pet lines - and of course hips and elbows and female must be healthy in every way.  I have considered untitled females, always asking the owner WHY she is not titled, and if she's worked if I can see her work, or a video - if she's not even worked then WHY.   If I chase the owner away with my questions and requirements, so be it.  If not, then my boys' stud fees are very reasonable for the quality, advanced titles, bloodlines and temperaments they have to offer quality females.
My goal as a stud dog owner is to allow them to produce quality puppies.  To do that the female must be quality.  I am not interested in collecting a stud fee only to produce puppies - I want the puppies to be quality, even if they are not from my program.   I have turned away thousands of $$$$$ of stud fees over the years.  It's all fine, so far I've been extremely pleased with the puppies my stud dogs have sired and it's all because the females I've used and allowed to be bred to my studs, were quality.

molly

Eichenluft Working German Shepherds

http://workinggermanshepherd.com

In answer to your question about DIY semen collection, etc... NO I don't feel competent to collect, extend, chill and ship semen. I go to a repro specialist in an area populated heavily enough to have very quick shipping pick-up from the clinic. This also allows me to have the dogs' semen checked with every collection. I will try to ignore your suggestion that I might "gouge" anybody for anything. :-(

well if you want a v or va show line be prepared to pay  1000 for va or around 750 and up for v rated.
and thats cheap.
when my guy is old enough i will stud him for $600 with no tittles and even more when he is titled.
each breeder has there own price  and they get it too.

We should not go call people back yard breeders because there is no definite standard for it. A person can see another operation anyway they like. Normally, dog lovers, hobbiest, enthusiast would go calling almost any breeder a back yard breeder.

Likewise, dog prices vary from place to place regardless of having a titled dog or not. It is very important that healthy puppies are bred. Stud fee will depend on how much the owner of the stud dog would value there dog. Cheap dogs should be viewed with caution as there could be a catch to it. Again, the breeder has to decide what they want to breed and what are the cost and the return.

In my books, good breeds good. Sometimes if the breeder has a stock that needs improving then breeding to a good dog would be a good idea.

if you have something positive to say about my thinking, please do comment. If negative, please keep it to yourself. There is enough bitching on this board since recently.