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Yes Reverend Wright made some ridiculous remarks but take a look at some of the stuff Bush's preacher has said, such as his remarks about gay people being "devil spawn".  I really couldn't care less about a presidents spiritual advisor, I think it has nothing to do with the job, and I sure don't vote or not vote for someone based upon their religious beliefs.  As far as your friend is concerned the remarks she made on the phone were crass and without merit regardless of what her race is. 

Sueincc, in 3 sentences you have very eloquently summed up my feelings exactly. I am unable to understand why religion should EVER be a part of a political campaign - separation of church and state must always prevail.  Spouting religion during a political campaign should be foridden by law. It's a smoke screen and a turn off to some of us. The history of religion is this country is not without blemish, I won't even think about getting into that on a dog breed board.  Frankly all the religious chest thumping gets very old and smacks of hypocracy. We re-elected a "god fearing, family man" who sat holding a child's book in his hands looking as if he were trying to decide which color Crayola to pick up next when he was informed that the second plane had just hit the Twin Towers.  That image will forever be etched in my memory.Thousands of our citizens have been killed and maimed in Iraq fighting a war that was none of our business in the first place.  We are there under bongus circumstances. Seniors living in their vehicles, can't pay their heating bills or taxes, can't but groceries. Kids on the street like urchins while mom and dad smoke crack and fight dogs. Millions of people without any health insurance. We are paying amost $4.00 per a gallon for gas with no end in sight and are in a recession. Way to go America and Dubya; give us another President who runs on the platform of fearing god, pro-life, and a family man and all of us may as well pack up and leave the country or prepare to have our homes go into foreclosure. 

Wright is most certainly a racist, Obama is clearly not a racist IMO. He was hoping if he didn't encourage Wright he would just go away, he didn't. Bush's minster is  homophobic, Bush, well who knows what he is. I won't even try to assume. I'd rather vote for an athiest or a homosexual than bear another 4 years of this sort of degradation of my country. I intend to vote for the platform, not the religion, the race or the sex. In the long run it's just not a deciding factor for me.  No denying it - the US is a racist country and I imagine there are many in a quandry currently trying to decide between a black man, a white woman and more of the same for another 4 years. BTW, Beetree, yes I am at the point that I do equate stupidity with all Republicans running for office so will vote straight Democrat this year unless McCain comes up with a plan to get this country back on its feet and OUT OF IRAQ. Then and only then will I change my mind and bring him into my equation. In the meantime, I am judging him by what he's said so far which isn't much and the company he keeps isn't exactly stellar either. BTW I just love it when everyone calls Clinton an aggressive bitch. Were she a man, shed be revered as strong and decisive.

Hillary is anything but strong and decisive, please.    Obama has been planning this day for many years and seems very ambitious, thats a bit scary.   Mc Cain seems to have integrity but he's still part of the establisment and surely poisoned by many years of playing the game.  Bush, he's not his father thats been evident.  I didn't care for his father either. Elitist and not in touch with the people.  They all claim a great calling but who wants another fanatic with a vision.   I'm tired of all of the predjudice's ,  race, religion, wealth.    I'm completely fed up with the two party system but changing that is surely impossible,  its scare's too many people that word (change).   I heard a wise man say we have elections only to give you the illusion of a choice.  Its us the people who have the obligation to change things and we fall short of the task.   I bought gas yesterday and payed $3.89.9 a gallon for it.  There is talk now of more war in Iran.  Our country is no longer producing goods and soon we will be making beds and cooking in the kitchen to earn a living.  What future lay's ahead for my children?   Vote for whom ever you like but things aren't going to change until we actually get involved and physicaly make demands on our legislature's.  Change will come from the ground up, start at the bottom and work your way up to the white house.  Our representatives need to be purged and replaced before we worry about a president.  Laws need to be enforced even at the top and even a president needs to be held accountable to the people.   Most important we need to educate our children and ourselves and know how not to be lead like lambs to the slaughter.  

Save your color, your religion, your foriegn accent, and your money, it means nothing.  This country has always been great because of our diverse population and our freedoms, we fought for those things once.   Not oil or religious beliefs.  Our biggest threat now is money and greed and power, these are the things that are ruling our country. 

I'll vote for the lesser of evils I am faced with, great choice isn't it?    I need more coffee.

Wright is racist...the new pastor probably is too...and Obama subjects his children to that and raises them to listen and respect those pastors - to listen to their counsel.  If he's not racist then dont you think he'd want to be teaching his children a different lesson than the one his church seems to be teaching?  It's not like there arent other churches...it's a pain to start out in a new community...but hey - Oprah did it.

I dot give a rats hoot about his religious orientation - but when that religious orientation spouts overtones of racism...yeah...I have a problem with it.  I have a problem when he lies about knowing about it (come on...the videos were online, they were brought out by the media (well yeah...it was fox...but no one cares when fox brings something out because it cant be true!) a year or so ago...but no one really wanted to talk about it.)

Not only that - but he falls apart under pressure...did anyone see the live feed of his first response after the thing about wright came out?  It was sad, ill articulated and he fell apart.  If he cant appear strong after something like that, a mere media scandal, what is he going to do when something real happens?

~Cate

Sorry, but I disagree.  Mountains out of Molehills to me, but I guess that's politics.

Unfortunately too many people listen to innuendo and the scare tactics too often work.

I am done with this, I know better than to discuss politics on a message board, endless arguments!

Your right about the endless argument sue...lol

You all might as well face it, no matter who you vote for we are screwed.   I warn my sons to be prepared for hard times and appoligize for the world we are leaving them.  

You want to fix it then burn it all down and start over from scratch.

Now I can start my day all depressed.

Yes I guess I am a mother XXXXXX

Look, vote or don't vote. Good thing not all have your attitude, TwoMoons. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were my husband.  As I've told him many times, if you don't vote, then you  relinguish your right to pass judgement on howthe country is managed so don't piss and moan about it. You are part of the problem.

If you are going to exercise your constitutional right to vote, just vote  your choice because you honestly think he/she is the right person to lead this country out of horrible state it is in currently bassed only on that person's campaign platform. Take religion and race out of the equation.That's the best any of us can do. In the big picture, no matter who wins, how could it get much worse?

Whats with all the Negativity here?

Dont you know that diversity is our strength?

The Economy is going great?

The Recession is contained?

The Iraq & Afganistan war is going great?

We have 3 great nominees for President?

Only 3,000 Illegals Invade us daily & Border is wide Open?

Price of Oil cant go up any more, with defecit spending & war financing?

We moved another carrier group off the coast of Iran & Lebanon, as the Iraq war is going so well?

The Re Election rate of US Congress is higher than that of former Communist Russia with fixed elections at 94%?

The Housing  & Subprime Mess is almost Over?

The US Dollar is at all time lows?

Inflation is contained?  Surely you see it when you buy your groceries, everything is down in price.

You all are so negative