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Palestar

by Palestar on 15 January 2008 - 22:01

Don-

I'd probably like your grandmother.

I know I put (separate, seperate)  .....I couldn't resist because of the recent thread title (no, I never bothered reading what it was about, just read the title of it)

You can pick on me as much as you want as long as you don't sign my paycheck...which I am pretty sure you don't.

Life is good and it takes more than online msg boards to ruin my day....LOL

I'm glad you like my picture of Yorkies!


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 15 January 2008 - 22:01

Nice picture of all the different dogs!!!!

I have 10 dogs and someday, soon, I am getting everyone in the same picture,
 

 Way to go Palestar!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is as close as I got!

         Of course I had to bribe them!


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 15 January 2008 - 22:01

This is my male Theo at left, laying next to Sam his half sister,
in front of the puppy pen, while Sam was taking a break from her pups.

Sam has her CGC & CD & TT  (But believe me, Sam is the biggest bitch you'll ever meet, but she listens to me, all the time).
Theo has his CGC & TDI

I think it does go smoother if the dogs are trained by you, and really listen to you, and
understand where their place is.
Plus I'm home 24-7 so no one is unsupervised.

 

 


NWilz

by NWilz on 16 January 2008 - 02:01

I think I am going to add another female.  BUT I am home 24/7 and the dogs will NEVER be left alone together no matter how well they seem to get along, after this thread I am fully prepared that Heidi (my dog) and a new female might never every get along, Heidi and I have lived together 24/7 for over 3 years so I know her very well, I do have adequate quarters to keep the dogs totally separate, I have enough time to devote to each dog assuming they don't get along.  I am taking it as a 16 year commitment (I hope my dog makes it to be 16, even that isn't long enough). Also it should be noted that Heidi did fine with a submissive female rescue we had here for a month or so, Heidi's old best friend was my ex's female GSD and we introduced them when the ex's GSD was still a pup, and Heidi has only really had trouble with the one female so there is a little ray of hope.  I am prepared for the worst.  I will not ever, EVER introduce toys or food or anything that could spark a fight when two females are together again. I thank all of you so much for sharing your stories and it has enforced to me how hard this is going to be.  It's very worth it to me.  I will be making my kennel more secure (do they really make the chain link kennels with a GSD in mind?) and putting a metal door as opposed to a hollow wood door to separate my upstairs from down stairs in the event they don't get along, before a new female comes into the picture.  The wood door and stock kennel worked to separate Heidi and the other female before, but that female was just staying here for a while, wasn't my dog, and I think she could have come out of the kennel if she'd had the desire to.  So better safe than sorry. Thanks again everyone.  I will proceed in this caution.  And yes, if a male that actually gets my attention comes along, I would accept a male as opposed to a female, but from my experience, girls rule  :)  If anyone has any more tips, I am very open to taking them and would really appreciate it.

Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 16 January 2008 - 02:01

Good Luck


shasta

by shasta on 16 January 2008 - 03:01

 Good luck, please note that you said Heidi gets along with submissive females...it's not been my experience that submissive females make the best schutzhund dogs...you normally want a stronger more dominant type female with some drive to do well in the sport, and you want her feeling like she is very strong. 

 do whatever you think is best, just don't get anyone or any dog bit.


by DDRshep on 16 January 2008 - 07:01

Its great to see that some people can have multiple dogs of the same sex out at the same time..a Walt Disney movie in real life. The reality is these people are exceptional and are not the rule. These are people who can read dogs brilliantly. Congratulations to those who have been able to do it so far. Real life is not a Walt Disney movie for the vast majority of people however as shasta has shown.

Humans have had domesticated animals for thousands of years. Just go to any farm. You see animals separated by fences and enclosures. I do not see the difficulty in having kennels for dogs and switching dogs around for outside kennel time, unless the people involved are just lazy or careless. I do not see the difficulty in building escape proof dog runs and kennels-this is not rocket science. (The tiger did get to escape from the San Francisco zoo though) I think this has more to do with the American tendency to idealize dogs as humans. Even many humans can't get along, why should dogs be expected to.


Khayem

by Khayem on 17 January 2008 - 00:01

We have a six GSD household, 4 bitches and 2 15 month old males that are litter brothers. One of the bitches is their litter sister and one is their mother.

The original 2 bitches that we have are fine together, they live in the house together unsupervised when we are not home, never even a hard stare between them or a scrabble over a bone.

We got a third bitch as a puppy related to the youngest of the above 2. No problems for 3 years, although the youngest could be mighty annoying and so we had to step in when required to calm the situation down. But no major bust up, just grumbles. Then the middle bitch had her litter and her tolerance of the youngest bitch evaporated. When the pups were 6 months old, she lost her temper and it was ON for all money. While it was a major job to seperate them, no-one was injured to speak of, but that was it for me. With 3 puppies in the yard and all of our dogs being house dogs, we cant afford an all-in brawl and I dont want to live with eyes in the back of my head. Been there, done that!

We are trying to rehome the youngest of the troublesome bitches and she is never in the yard with anyone other than the oldest bitch, who she doesn't bother. She is fine inside with the other 4 dogs including both boys, but I just dont trust her now. and we keep a close eye on everyone when she is around. problem is she cant get on with any other dogs outside our home either, she is quite dog aggressive, so for now, we have to manage the situation, but it is only a matter of time until a door isn't shut properly or someone misunderstands where all of the dogs are and it will be on again, only this time with possibly 6 adult dogs involved.

The 15 month old bitch is also starting to show signs of being hard with her mother, so she will be next to go if it continues. The 2 boys are easy to manage in the house even with bitches in season but we never allow them outside together.

After having a dog killed in a fight 9 years ago, I have learnt my lesson. I love all of my dogs but I love them alive and kicking and owning dogs is supposed to be pleasurable. But it isnt when they dont get on. So if you go with 2 bitches, be totally prepared to get rid of one of them at the first sign of trouble. Don't be sentimental and wait until it's too late, just bite the bullet. Once bitches take a set against each other, it's for LIFE, literally and there is no way you can change it except by rehoming.

Good luck.

 






 


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