Pups sold on limited or full registration - difference is price? - Page 16

What of Trafalgar's very important implicit point: if the focus of the breeder is really on the well-being of the little lives he or she brings into the world, the focus should be on finding ways to better select buyers who will do all the right things.  The focus on limited registration as a means of controlling breeding does, at least on the face of it, sound like a selfish act to control production capacity.  While many arguments can be made to prevent the wrong dogs from being bred "for the betterment of the breed," they are all ethically secondary to the efforts we should be making to place the puppy in loving and appropriate homes.  It would seem that the registration issue solves only a tiny part of the breeders' ethical duties.

This thread alone has spent a lot of energy fighting unproductively, when this forum might have been used to discuss thoughtful strategies at soliciting, approving, and perhaps even contracting for "conditions of life" for the puppy.

I will throw out an example.  You could charge, say, $1200 for a pup now, or insead charge $1500 with a rebate of $300 for some demonstration when the dog is 2, 3, ... 7 (?) that the dog is still healthy and happy, and still living at home.  Not transferable, of course.  With a contracted bonus for "signals" of your invention that the dog is being well cared for.

You could make it clear that you expect to maintain an open dialogue with puppy buyers.  Ask for pics, vids, emails -- and keep them engaged in news of your kennel, breed, shows and trials, health/medical updates, etc.  You could establish litter families, say, so that all the buyers of one litter keep in touch with each other -- this might prove very valuable in the sharing of developmental insights, behavioral quirks, and even set a minimum caretaking standard (it's hard to be neglectful when you are often hearing of accomplishments, vacations, reunions, etc., of your puppy's littermates -- no?)  Perhaps reunions might be scheduled -- in which the breeder is the host.  That would discharge some ethical duty to keep the puppies in the light of day, and to encourage everyone to keep their dogs healthy and happy.

What those conditions are could be a topic of discussion.  I'm just brainstorming. Why spend so much time instead on breeding rights -- such a small and unimportant part of what you would think should matter to ethical breeders -- the love and care the puppies get for a lifetime.

Perhaps this could be a new thread?

I also like the idea that you give a puppy buyer half-price on the next puppy if the dog lives to old age in his or her hands.

Again another example of not knowing what you are talking about.

Who has any german shepherd registered with the American Pet Registry?  NOT ME!

I have one registered with the American Purebred Registry though.

Get your facts straight!

Again what qualitfications do you have to comment on my xrays.  Those xrays OFAed GOOD by the way!

Shows your brain power.

You would seem much more intelligent if you spoke of what you know and left what you do not know to those who know!

I agree enough time wasted on fighting because some people are not capable of learning.

I must say that fact that you agree with breeding rescues means this board is not the board for me.

I prefer to associate with those who are reputable, responsible and help the breed.

By the way if you agree with the rescue breeder it might also interest you to know they bred a bitch with epilopsy.  Wonder how that is so great for the breed you claim to love so much?

I am done arguing as I have so much better to do.

Watch for me in the news with my exceptional pups.

I for one plain to put my money where my mouth is.  Anyone can talk the talk; many here do.

I am WALKING THE WALK; unlike those TALKING IT here!

Are you aware that the OFA has a website that lists every dog they have ever issued an OFA number to? Neither of your bitches, Mia or Nina or listed there. You'd better contact them and tell them they forgot  your dogs before someone gets the idea that they really don't have OFA good hips after all.

I'll be watching for  you in the news with your expectional dogs.

post your OFA numbers or shut up

This was clipped directly from the American Purebred Registry Website:

American Purebred Registry has been in the business of registering purebred, full-blooded dogs and cats since 1979. These animals through no fault of their own have lost their registration privileges. Some of the reasons this has happened are:

The owner bought a puppy, the seller had not registered the pups.

The owner lost contact with the seller before the papers were delivered.

Sellers dog was purebred, but papers were lost, even though the dog was bred to a registered dog, the pups could not be registered.

The owner sent the registration in too late and it was canceled.

Original papers were lost and the owner had no idea how to order a duplicate copy or the information to order it with.

There are many variations to the dog or cat owners story about why their pet does not have registration papers. Lost registrations could have been several generations back.

APR is a bogus dog registry.  The breeder of record does not have to sign anything in order for an owner to register a dog. I could do through a show catalog, pick out names and AKC  numbers of dogs of any breed and for a fee I could register a make believe dog in my own name with the APR. 

Sounds like you have experience Blitzen.

You are welcome to DNA test any of my dogs.  I welcome you at your expense since you have the issues....anytime.

Email me and make the arrangements.

I have nothing to hide; my dogs are who their papers say they are.  Unlike the rescue who you support for breeding her rescues and she knows nothing of the dogs.

But we all know you will never do that because it will once again prove you have no knowledge, and are simply bashing your competition.

I have better and it ticks you off.

Work for it and you too could have dogs as superior as I do.

And those OFA numbers are.................................................still waiting

I don't get how you are Blitzens competition? She doesn't breed dogs, so do you mind explaining why she would give 2 shits otherwise?