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by LMH on 26 May 2007 - 02:05

Well Gard, I guess that's one way you could look at it. Here's another:

Totally ridiculous---Nobody could give a shit about the legalities involved.  The man went around back and came upon a big, scary dog which frightened him...so he shot the big, scary dog to death.  Oh-no-I forgot--shot him and left him dying, while he had his scratch looked at. Sorry-----I believe what I read.  Look at that dog in the truck.  He was tied. That's all I need to know.

 


by jdh on 26 May 2007 - 02:05

Real Dog,

It appears that while I was eating dinner you stated several alternative positions on the situation before I clicked "submit".  While they are reasonable, and cast some doubt on the popular interpretation of the available information, we really do not have specific facts related to this particular case. I agree that the standard information outlets are useless in the pursuit of detailed unmanipulated factual information, as they are deeply motivated to emotionalize and sensationalize a story at all costs. I can only hope that a public statement will be made at the conclusion of the investigation. At such a time I will certainly amend my statements, in deference to the findings of the investigating authority. While I mentioned the implied charges against the deputy, I believe that my letter to Sheriff Coffey urged "judicious and decisive handling of this matter". I do not see that as conflicting with the deputy's right to justice, so I will wait and see. Thank you for your sincerity in seeking answers. It is all too easy to pile on. Best Wishes, Jonah


by Ravenwalker on 26 May 2007 - 02:05

I would be willing to bet that the dog broke loose...so the guy pulled out his weapon and pumped 7 rounds into the dog.  I thought the seven rounds was WAY overboard...but after thinking about it....it doesnt take long at all to pump off seven rounds.   So...the dog breaks its collar and charges the guy...your could easlily fire off those rounds FAST.

I would  hope that is what happened...I would hate to think that he would walk up to a dog that is tied...when he also has different doors to get into the house and blows away the dog just because he can.

I agree with others that it is not fair to write letters demanding that he be fired until all of the facts are in.  I  would hate to be part of the reason the guy loses his means for supporting his children if he was in the right.

 I dont think he should be condemned because of the way things appear.....I also dont think we should assume he was in the right just because he is a law enforcment officer.  That is for his superiors to sort out after the facts are in.

If he was in the right there is no doubt in my mind that he DID NOT enjoy doing that and more than likely felt terribel about it. 

 If he was in the wrong...bad energy comes back to visit us all. 

 The sad thing is the poor dog had to die. 

 Lets hope the guy who wasnt paying support gets his ass kicked for not supporting his children and bringing this on the dog.......but I bet if you talk to him there are two sides to his case also....

 

 

 


by EchoMeadows on 26 May 2007 - 02:05

I'll try to lend some perspective...  With my conversations with Sharon I am told that the deputy was not injured seriously enough to even break the skin !!!  I was very disturbed that they continued on with a Rabies Test even after knowing the dog did not break the skin,  So that fact alone makes me wonder how much of an attack could this dog have launched without making contact of some kind,  continue to attack,  I doubt it or there would have been more dammage  to the deputy. 

The initial bite did not even tear the deputy's pants,  according to ambulance crew member the bite looked more like a "pinch" !  and did not even require a band aid.

7 Casing of from the 357 were found in a single 3ft. area.  again leads me to beleive the dog snapped at him, and he opened fire and just flat out continued to fire.  The dogs chain was shot in 1/2 at some point,  the bloody grass is where the dog stumbled trying to get away once the deputy backed away and went to his care to "call for backup"  the dog stumbled and dragged itself back to the porch and lye 3 ft. from the door in the photo which is where he was discovere by Sharon's son.  who took the dog to the vet but he died on the way,  the dog was still breathing but not very concious she said other than some cries and whimpers.   THIS DOG SUFFERED !!!! 

No we do not have all of the facts,  But there are alot of concerns as to this deputy's ability to use good judgement.

We do know this family has suffered greatly due to some very poor decision making processes on that fateful day,  and those decisions can not be changed.  This family's suffering can not be taken away deputy Long's Bruise however is probably close to being gone.

Don't get me wrong you guys I can appreciate another perspective,  But I can not codone the actions of deputy Long on that day.  His choices were poorly done on that day !!

 


by DKiah on 26 May 2007 - 02:05

The only way to test an animal for Rabies is examination of brain tissue, for that the head would have to be sent to a state lab.. Providing proof of a current Rabies vaccination should answer any questions, although a person can insist that an animal be tested or maybe there is some local ordinance......


by ProudShepherdPoppa on 26 May 2007 - 02:05

Real Dog, you are  probablyr ight in your lagal assessment and I am sure that is exactly what the Sheriffs department will hide behind when trying to protect this psychopath.  We don't even know that the dog even bit him, only his word.  I don't think that I could take at face value anything that someone who could stand and fire 7 rounds into a chained animal has said.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 26 May 2007 - 03:05

I know that the full story (at least the washed and re-washed version that MAY be released to the press from a possible internal investigation by the sheriff's department) may eventually be made public, and who knows? Perhaps a sworn policeman will be determined to be a serious threat to the integrity of his badge and his oath and be dealt with accordingly.

I still cannot help but see the facts presented so far and supported so far by photographs taken at the scene. The dog was tied with a bright yellow rope. The policeman could have backed up and away. The policeman did not have to go past this dog to escape a situation that MAY have been dangerous to his life or limb. The policeman did not practice due diligence in this matter and decided to add another dead dog to his collection. And seven (7) shots fired? I am not the high-speed marksman that I once was, but I am still a very avid gunslinger. Seven (7) shots? A large dog at close range? Sworn and trained police officer? No hail of bullets flying towards him from seen or unseen locations? In the daylight? Just a well-armed man shooting a tied dog.

A warrant was to be served, and yes the policeman had every legal right to be on that property named on the warrant to serve that warrant. Had the dog been loose and charging-that would constitute a threat to the policeman's life and limb, and deadly force would have perhaps been necessary. Again, the dog was tied. What he did after he met the tied dog shows poor observation skills and judgement-both critical in a self-defense scenario, and both critical skills that a professional police officer must possess.

Bob-O


by jdh on 26 May 2007 - 03:05

Echo,

You seem to have the only relevant details in this case. By the way, the casing pattern would not be important as every 357 to my knowledge is a revolver, so he would have dumped the spent casings and speedloaded another set. Best Wishes, Jonah


Shepherd Woman

by Shepherd Woman on 26 May 2007 - 03:05

GARD, I totally agree with all that you have said.  Well put on all of your post!


animules

by animules on 26 May 2007 - 03:05

Jonah, I thought the same thing so I did some checking. SIG-Sauer came out with a .357 semiauto in 1994 so it is fairly new as guns go. 





 


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