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by Ibrahim on 17 May 2011 - 01:05
Looks like I lost concentration (sleepy). Anyway it is confusing but Jeck vom Noricum is behind
1. Vandal vom Mittelwest
2. Aeros vom Heulenluft
3. Juneau vom Haus Tyson
4. Bazi von der Urbecke
5. Jasper vom Kleinen Teich
6. Ule v TeMar
7. Laius vom Moorbeck
8. Hero vom Spitalfeld
That is about 50% of the Nominees !!!
Ibrahim
1. Vandal vom Mittelwest
2. Aeros vom Heulenluft
3. Juneau vom Haus Tyson
4. Bazi von der Urbecke
5. Jasper vom Kleinen Teich
6. Ule v TeMar
7. Laius vom Moorbeck
8. Hero vom Spitalfeld
That is about 50% of the Nominees !!!
Ibrahim
by Ibrahim on 17 May 2011 - 01:05
Yes now I unserstand, you meant Jeck Beldeiche
by Dog1 on 17 May 2011 - 01:05
But it's so far back we can't really isolate the genetics. Where are you anyway?
by Ibrahim on 17 May 2011 - 01:05
Jordan ( Middle East) and at the moment in between wake up and asleep, lol.
Ibrahim
Ibrahim
by Ibrahim on 17 May 2011 - 01:05
Your contribution to this thread is a nice treat to one's soul. Most important is to identify the (now) dogs with working ability and some fire within.
by Dog1 on 17 May 2011 - 01:05
I see you are somewhat captivated by the information you may discover that others do not know or are not willing to share. Take time to rest. The real genetics are there for those that care to discover,,, there is time to rest.
I have Larus Batus' sister here and we are hoping you rest and relaxation until tomorrow when you persue the answers again, good night.
I have Larus Batus' sister here and we are hoping you rest and relaxation until tomorrow when you persue the answers again, good night.
by Ibrahim on 17 May 2011 - 02:05
Thanks and I look forward to more contribution by the other experienced and well informed on the breed too, maybe soon.
Ibrahim
Ibrahim
by leoetta on 17 May 2011 - 04:05
You both have done a super job!! Thanks so much!!
by Ibrahim on 17 May 2011 - 09:05
Randy,
I found some one who works in processing database to help me widen the pedigrees and make the mathmatical logic, but this can not be done mathmatics wise only as some dogs are repeated in the pedigrees to better the structure only, so I am gathering all info available on certain dogs here in the PDB, and thanks to many members, there is enough data on certain dogs to spot the work effect, Gustav and Preston (as well as others) contributed many important pieces of info here and there that will for sure lighten the paths of work blood passed to those Nominees, I only have to do extra effort.
So please give me sometime to finish this properly before you go on to discuss more recent dogs.
Ibrahim
I found some one who works in processing database to help me widen the pedigrees and make the mathmatical logic, but this can not be done mathmatics wise only as some dogs are repeated in the pedigrees to better the structure only, so I am gathering all info available on certain dogs here in the PDB, and thanks to many members, there is enough data on certain dogs to spot the work effect, Gustav and Preston (as well as others) contributed many important pieces of info here and there that will for sure lighten the paths of work blood passed to those Nominees, I only have to do extra effort.
So please give me sometime to finish this properly before you go on to discuss more recent dogs.
Ibrahim
by Dog1 on 17 May 2011 - 11:05
Ibrahim,
Like I said, the breed started with only a few dogs. When you go way back, many dogs are common, but it's too far back to breed to it today. As we see from the good ones, there are only one or two recently that rise to the top. The research should do just as you did and identify the most recent. From there we can look and see where it's going.
I think if you expand the pedigrees to include the mothers as well, you'll find more of the same. The gene pool that consistently produces work is pretty small.
Like I said, the breed started with only a few dogs. When you go way back, many dogs are common, but it's too far back to breed to it today. As we see from the good ones, there are only one or two recently that rise to the top. The research should do just as you did and identify the most recent. From there we can look and see where it's going.
I think if you expand the pedigrees to include the mothers as well, you'll find more of the same. The gene pool that consistently produces work is pretty small.
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