List GSD practise/training day KNPV 8-4-2017 - Page 4

Where did  I say that there is a pedigree full of 50 years PH-1 dogs in a  GSD pedigree ???

Well they excist in the X malinois/ dutch shepherds ofcourse ..., they don,t need IPO..... It is not possible to get 50 years KNPV certification in a GSD, and why not because most GSD will be sold after the trial over all those  years and some handlers don,t breed with their dogs., and there only a few handlers who certified a GSD and trial it every year. And if you use always the same KNPV dogs you wll get a very close linebreeding on the samedogs....... This is the litter with the most KNPV dogs in a pedigree as you see this is a very,very  close linebreeding

 

http://www.bloedlijnen.nl/pdfneststamboom.php?ID=4183

 

Also an important fact there only a few GSD  females in history of KNPV who  are good enough to get certification most GSD females are not good enough....most of times you will see males.

 

Can you translate some why do the ming dogs and nick have nshb number, what does that mean, these are not dutch dogs.

Also does that ped have mal/dutch in it?

I can't follow it properly.

NO I said that only the X Malinois/Dutch shepherds have full KNPV pedigrees

That example pedigree I give are only GSD

 

 

Got it, still ming and nick + others are still close. What the nshb mean?

The reason you gave for no real knpv gsd is valid thanks. That was all I was trying to establish.

Knpv German shepherd are advertised a lot now, its misleading and false.

Newbs should be aware, the most they get are IPO dogs with knpvvtitled puppies or puppy from knpv ph1 stud with IPO parent/s up close.

The snark was unnecessary, thanks Gustav.

NHSB means a dutch oficial pedigree number Inox haus Ming is a dutch dog coming from a dutch kennel ingeschreven Raad van Beheer

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=389152-inox-vom-haus-ming

 

How its different to this dog, how is this dutch???




 

 

Very simple Inox is bred and born in Holland .

So he has a dutch  pedigree with a NHSB number.

Haus Ming kennel is located in Holland.

 

entertaining topic

 

so.... as a breeder I wouldn,t take atention from only a piece of paper only its all about genetics,
bloodlines and how they will produce , also a dog with not any paper or

certification.

If Inox had a brother or sister  with not any paper / certification I will use them...... but even for  the SV it was not possible breeding with Inox himself...
 

 

Seriously? Anything behind Ina vom Haus Gard is basically our frickin bloodlines. Stoffelblick, very close friend to our family. Gildo ours, Orly ours, Fricka ours. And you are telling me, this is solely a dutch dog without any other influence from actual SchH/IPO breeders?

This is getting ridiculous.

And even Eika Ming is basically out of German dogs and has a SchH2 herself.