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by CelticSpirit on 23 February 2017 - 13:02

It is not that breeder HundMutter, nice try though lol

VK, according to the breed standard overly shy or nervousness is a disqualifying trait.
The Judge would have to be able to put his hand on the dogs head and run them along the body of the dog without any shy reaction, I am sure a judge would not get within a meter before she would bolt.

Sereno Spirit

by Sereno Spirit on 23 February 2017 - 14:02

Yes...nice try Hundmutter 😊

by beetree on 23 February 2017 - 16:02

Very unfortunate result considering your expectations and after your attempts at due diligence.

The pup may never be the perfect specimen you were aiming for, but if you are the right kind of owner, issues being presented can be improved and/or managed if not eliminated, and you will still have a pet who adores you.

Share a puppy picture, I would love to see one. I bet the pup is cute!

laura271

by laura271 on 23 February 2017 - 17:02

"The Judge would have to be able to put his hand on the dogs head and run them along the body of the dog without any shy reaction, I am sure a judge would not get within a meter before she would bolt."

If you decide to keep the dog, you may want to consider teaching her to stand and tolerate being examined on command. Or vet future visits will be very challenging and stressful.

I have a male GSD, who is not fearful but unsocial, and he is trained to tolerate being handled on command (teeth, testicles, ears, etc.). I am grateful every time we take him to the vet that my husband spent the time doing the training.

susie

by susie on 23 February 2017 - 17:02

The OP entered one dog / puppy on PDB - in case this is the puppy we are talking about it's a pretty cute one, and it's either a plush or a longcoat.

In case of "working ability" ( always in case it really is the dog in question) , this pup is out of generations of show line dogs "only", no proof of working abilities.

Even out of generations of titled parents not all puppies will be "stable" , willing and able to work.

Buying "online" out of untested dogs should be a no-go for everybody who wants to train, title and show.

Sorry in case I looked at the wrong dog - otherwise you learned a hard lesson.

1. A BBS is no GSD, the temperament is different

2. Socialisation is very important

3. You can't await IPO stock out of untested bloodlines

4. There is always a reason when a serious breeder is willing to sell a puppy he held for himself

I really hope you and the pup will become a good team - after all it's impossible to buy a 4 months old world champion  ( it's not only about temperament, it's about health, teeth, size, conformation, and on and on ).


Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 23 February 2017 - 18:02

If this is the pup, she looks longhaired to me and much better pigment than we usually see in UK.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/white_shepherd/dog.html?id=2551429-yarden-de-conquistadores-del-azahar


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 23 February 2017 - 18:02

Just checking you were awake, Sue.Tongue Smile

Seriously though, you must have an awareness of who the breeder in question might be ?  DO you have any comment on the OP's problem ?


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 23 February 2017 - 18:02

Have to just say, no breeder no matter how long they have bred can tell if a puppy is a "future champion".....that's a sales pitch which is basically nonsense.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 23 February 2017 - 18:02

@CelticSpirit: as Laura says, and vk4 implied earlier, this would be far from being a first, to train a nervous dog to behave calmly in the Showring. It might not be something I would have done myself, for fairly obvious reasons about competing with any sort of 'faulty' dog (!) - but it is certainly possible. And I know it can work, having handled [for the then owner], (and later lived with), a GSD bitch who was a bit of a nightmare, temperamentally, outside a Showground, but had been accustomed to being well behaved within one ! Especially as your puppy is young enough to work with on that score. In fact is at the age where you should be starting to ring-train, anyway.

Sereno Spirit

by Sereno Spirit on 23 February 2017 - 19:02

As to whom the breeder maybe... I am not going to speculate as there are a growing number of breeders in Spain. I can only say that the dog mentioned above named Yarden is heavily related to two of my dogs that I purchased from her breeder within a year of one another..one is now 7 years old and the other 8 years old and both do happen to be Champions twice over and have exemplary temperaments. No puppy can be guaranteed to become the perfect show dog let alone a Champion.

Yarden in the photo is clearly a long coated WSS





 


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