List GSD practise/training day KNPV 8-4-2017 - Page 7

VK I trained multiple dogs to IPO 1 2 and 3 , takes a bit more than 2 minutes

 

 

I don't just want to know GSD, I'd like to know all breeds. I highly doubt there's that many females overall being trained so the statement about GSDs is just a biased statement that shouldn't be made without being able to say how many females of all breeds are actually being trained and titled. On top of that, you qualified the statement with "over the past 5 years I have only seen 2 very good GSD in KNPV" you said yourself there are over 200 clubs and there is no way that you could possibly see all the dogs that are trialing if that's the case.

Females in general do not get trained as much as males do, especially to high levels because they are naturally not as strong and heat cycles throw a wrench in trialing/competition plans, so most people stick to males. In the United States, less than 10% of the dogs at high level are bitches. They're rarely titled in the United States at this point even at a club level, and the reason they're titled in Germany is that they HAVE TO BE in order to be bred. With KNPV registration, and I'm assuming that the Dutch breed registry also doesn't require females to be titled in order for the puppies to be registered so there's no reason to title the female or try to compete with one if the males are going to dominate anyways.

About other breeds only a few bouviers,rottweiler ,dobermann I have seen this year one bouvier female.

The club where I train are 5 X malinois females from the 10 dogs who are in training , general here I see much more X malinois/dutchies females I think its about 20-25 percent total and some handlers  they keep them for breeding. .

Another important reason is most police departments will not buy females most dogs gonna sold to police /military after trial , personal I see better quality
x Malinois than GSD but what I see that is my personal observation and ofcourse there are much more X malinois litters.

I think it is very important also certified more females to see what is the potential from the dog individiual, bloodlines only don,t wanna tell you everything.And I also believe the more important factor from genetics in females than males for breeding.

BW - you are right, as far as my understanding about KNPV goes, in that very few females of any breed are titled in that discipline. I have heard that females are selected for breeding based on their genetics and not on titles, as they do not have to be titled to breed therefore it hardly ever gets done. Considering that few dogs in KNPV are "pedigreed" GSD, the numbers of females titled would be minimal, but I would still like to see some examples of the ones that are, as they are a "rare bird". If Black Malinois could provide some names and even better, some video of GSD females titled in KNPV, it would be nice to see.

Rayka Mahlermeister nice quality female

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lun_Wp-5-t8

 

If  I can find  I will post other  females

 

Xantippe Blommerschot what Duke said before . also PH-1 certified had much infuence

on the GSD in Holland , same as Esthera Tiekerhook

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=468259-xhantippe-van-blommerschot

 

 

multiple heukse females titled PH1

Nena van ,t Heukske I forget

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHEraMYEKo0

knpv titled female,mostly dutch KNPV breeding

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=485681-kim-vant-heukske

Vk4gsd, thanks for enlightening me on the irrevalency of me posts. I will leave this discussion to you people who have trained and worked both IPO and KNPV dogs and understand the difference.