List GSD practise/training day KNPV 8-4-2017

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by Gustav on 21 March 2017 - 10:03

Top German Showlines only exist because of IPO dogs by some of the same brilliance that has been asserted here. You can't have it both ways!

by Gustav on 21 March 2017 - 10:03

Top German Showlines only exist because of IPO dogs by some of the same brilliance that has been asserted here. You can't have it both ways!

by vk4gsd on 21 March 2017 - 10:03

Just show us the pedigrees of the unique knpv lines consistent for 50 years, or 30 or just 20.

Come on just one ped.

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

So Cain himself is KNPV but his parents are IPO dogs. So you think his parents couldn't have been KNPV because they did IPO?

Thats absolutely bollocks and you know it.

THESE oh so subpar IPO dogs produced a dog that titled in KNPV... with your theorie none of those subpar IPO dogs should be capable of producing KNPV dogs because ya know, IPO destroys the breed. Yet here we are, with KNPV dog after KNPV dog coming out of direct IPO stock.

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

As for Showline and IPO. IPO isn't the culprit. The rules are the same for Showlines and Working lines.
IPO isn't the problem. It's Judges, corruption and midnight trials that are the problem as well as people willing to spend 100 000 dollars for a frickin Showline.

by Swarnendu on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

Just show us the pedigrees of the unique German Show lines consistent for 50 years, or 30 or just 20.

Come on just one ped.

If IPO is behind KNPV dogs, it is behind Show dogs also (or even pets, think about it!), and I thought ALL EXTREME IPO enthusiasts hate show more than KNPV...

As Gustav said TWICE, you can't have it both ways!

by Swarnendu on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

Yeah, IPO shouldn't be blamed for show, but should be credited for KNPV....

by vk4gsd on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

All talk no PEDs.

The ASL, the WGSL, DDR, Czech kennel are all purer lines than knpv.

The fact is you can not produce unique strain if knpv like the above dogs.

I have just been on vandenbroot site, you don't have to go back far to smack up against wgwl same gardefense.

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

We are not hating on KNPV.

And yes, IPO is not the problem. It's corrupt judges that are the problems and bought titles!
IPO, depending on how it's judged, can be as easy or hard as possible.

It's not perfect, neither is KNPV, neither is French Ring or PSA, or SDA or whatever else is out there.

The matter of the fact is, KNPV dogs come out of IPO dogs. That has nothing to do with us hating on KNPV dogs. We are just realistic of where these dogs are coming from and that IPO still produces damn good dogs that are well capable of titling in KNPV.

by vk4gsd on 21 March 2017 - 11:03

Yeah nobody is hating on anything except all the IPO haters. I was hoping to have some work cut out researching PEDs but nope not in gardefense or vanderbroot.

Give me something else so I can prove myself wrong.

How old is the knpv, come up with something please.

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