Mastiff Type Heads in the GSD - Page 10

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Lambesis claims he was denied anastrozole, which is a drug offsetting the side effects of withdrawl from anabolic steroids, which he was taking regularly prior to his 2014 incarceration. Lambesis says he suffers "exponetial terror" from the potential development of breasts. Lambesis also claims he suffers from gynecomastia, which is a build-up of fat tissue in the pectorals, a common side effect of a hormonal imbalance resulting from steroid use.

Out of all the side effects a steroid user could potentially experience, gynecomastia (aka bitch tits) is one of the worst…and it certainly tops the list when it comes to cosmetic side effects

And yes they do use bras. There is even a Wikipedia page on man bras. Found one picture of an aging Ahnold -no bra but definitely sagging chest pecs. Haven't figured how to capture address on smartphone yet.

And yes I know they can also come from other performance enhancing drugs such as hgh so perhaps my error was only suggesting steroid use instead of peds.

I'm human and we all can make mistakes and we can all learn new things esp in a somewhat eosteric area but I do try to post only what I can back up.

So you suggest you have knowledge of the ins & outs of peds. Could they be being used to bulk up these dogs? As noted I've seen some undesirable temperments in show lines including inappropriate aggression to people other dogs even young pups. It certainly makes me wonder.

Steroids don't bulk people or dogs up, the only thing that builds muscle, hypertrophy, is tearing the muscle fibre apart through progressive overload and rebuilding it with protein. Steroids aren't protein.

Supplements act in secondary ways that support that. Direct injection of oil will give the appearance of big rock hard muscle but that is extreme and very dangerous and can lead to amputation. Check out rich piana's arms of late, oil?????

Weight pull dogs and that world are likely to in cases use supps.

 

Supps only allow you to train longer, harder and more regularly, growth hormones are a different thing.

If you want some insights albeit slightly coded I can give you links on the open internet forums if guys from pro athletes, cops, baseball players discussing how to purchase, test and use illegal supps, it is a real eye opener how open and common it is. Unfortunately guys have to experiment to great detriment in some cases because no medical guidance is available, it's mainly empirical bro science but compared to a generation ago it is much safer on average.

If you want to see man boobs go to Walmart and look at thousands of regular slobs with bitch tits on their chest and backs.

All aging males will store fat more easily due to LACK if tes not because of tes. Guys that train are less prone to man boobs than guys that don't.

Anyhoo a dog that has never been on a weight/fitness program like a pulling dog will not IMO spontaneously grow sharpei like skin folds as pups/young dogs.

 

ETA there are lots of examples of retired bulk guys that modify their calorie intake and maintain exercise that look perfectly healthy.

OMG, TIG! Dunno enough about 'roid use to get into that debate, but I was curious about your ref to the K9Pines entry^ so took a look. Anyone wants to talk about doin' damage to the Breed, there's a case in point. And a half.
Would you call that Blue Sable ? Blue Brindle ? Pete, wanna see where the Tazzy Tiger disappeared to ?
Might have guessed the UK 'colours' production factory would feature.
Aristima; Bridgeview - paternal grandparents. Will ya look at the hips on that ???
Plus the increase in Epilepsy risk. (AND not a sign of anything to do with training or work.)
Maybe this should have been on the 'Blues' thred, but Jenni if you are reading, please believe THIS is the sort of thing I have always railed against, NOT the odd accidental blues in a litter of otherwise 'proper' GSDs !!!

@vk4gsd, that is not how muscle is built with or without steroids. Muscle repair is not the same as muscle growth. People who use steroids but don't work out will still gain muscle. Studies have shown this.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2569792-k9pines-zoey-of-hartmore-legat-kbr

I found the dog you mentioned, TIG.

 

Hund, I mentioned those dogs on the Blue Shepherd thread! My reaction was exactly the same as yours...

Edit: It was Fantom76 that originally posted the link for them, on pg. 1 of the Blue Bay thread.

Sorry guys, hadn't realised that had been referenced already on the 'Blues' one ! I hadn't checked it there.

I can't believe this is still going on over a head.

It's so easy, you can absolutely pull this off within a few generations. Do a couple 1-2 inbreedings and voila, each generation is more extreme than the other.

We can watch it right in front of our eyes being done by a well known breeder. He lets everyone follow his endeavor on Facebook...

Page reference, please, or a name ...?

Baerenfangs,

You cannot get out what you don't put in and putting big heads to big heads does not make them any bigger than the ones you are using, or change the shape. If current bloodlines were capable of producing the head of a mastiff, we would be seeing them cropping up ouside China and we are not.