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Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 13 November 2012 - 02:11

$950 wow thats insane!!! My shelter does tier pricing dogs that are more popular the shelter charges more.  The problem I have GSDNewbie is that the shelter puts down over 15,000 dog a year with required spay/neutering here. I think until the shelter can lower its kill rate, they should flat rate. So what if purebred dogs get out sooner. Its better than the needle.

Here is a down side to tier pricing (hope I didnt post this prior sorry if I did) ...... There were 5 german wirehair or wolfhounds (cant remember the breed now) that were at the shelter as puppies 5-7 mo old). I contacted the breed rescue group and they offered to take all the puppies at one time. But because of tiered pricing the shelter was going to charge them close to a grand. So where really is the "niceities of saving the dogs" The group was 501c3 so that wasnt even the issue. The shelter even refused to work with this group. It was really pathetic. I was told last year when i was taking rabbits that I couldnt do it anymore because ONLY the shelter has the right to adopt out the rabbits, even though most had been there way over a month or longer I no longer work with the shelter at all.

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 13 November 2012 - 02:11

Oh and Fawndallas, the cheapest neuter here for a large dog such as a shepherd is $150.00 at a cut rate spay clinic. If you want a vet to do it in the comfort of the clinic, your looking at  $300.00+

Barb

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 13 November 2012 - 03:11

Wow.  So expensive.  I did just learn from my vet that our cut rate place uses horse meds.   Not sure exactly what that means; I am still working on trusting she completely though.

GSDNewbie

by GSDNewbie on 13 November 2012 - 04:11

Some rescues began with a good reason for asking more for purebreds. The original thinking was many who were adopting them for 40 were turning around and selling them on craigslist and other places for profit. They want to be sure the dogs are in their "home" not in a dealers hands like a horse dealer between auctions. Some rescues did not know why it began that shelters and rescues began charging more for the purbreds and jumped on the band wagon with it and raised it even higher and had I agree in many cases began asking over what should be asked. I have had trouble with rescues in past like the siamese cat rescue that would not adopt a cat out to me because one of my dogs was unfixed and it was my show dog. Not all rescues are great because even not all groups with rescue in the name are even a true rescue. I just do not like the ones doing good tared with the same rant brush that are trying to control how many are being euthed each year because people want to breed their family pets and make some money off them. I have helped rescues for over 20 years with transport, artwork donations, website graphic donation and fostering. I do not agree with many practices in some rescues. I feel stringly many do not properly triage realistic numbers of dogs that should be rescued verses dogs that should be put down which of course is a controversial subject. Back yard and pet breeders ask 800 to 1000 for each of those little mixed mutts with cutsie names adding to population of the homless dogs so it is kind of puzzeling to pick on rescue prices when you even bred a litter from untitled dogs yourself I believe? Did you sell the pups for rescue prices? Everyone has opinions, not enough are trying to be solutions. Some people think it is outrageous that rescues that have no room should ask for money from the people dumping their dogs either.

Siantha

by Siantha on 13 November 2012 - 08:11

i know our shelter will jack up the price for a purebred dog. and they have a volenteer vet who does all their spays and neuters about 17 a day.

by Rasenhof on 13 November 2012 - 09:11

I think that the shelter/rescue cheaper mutt price is that most people would buy (adopt) a purebred looking dog/puppy rather than that (cute but heaven knows what it would look like when adult) mutt pup.  Also what size will that puppy grow into.  So rather than have a zillion mutts as adults, they would rather that the people who want a purebred, pay a larger price for the dog they would really want to live with for 10 years or so, and hope that others will be attracted by a lower price for that cute (or ugly) pup of unknown ancestry and take potluck.   Our shelters here in San Diego County in CA gave away pit bull mixes FREE to good homes for a month.  I don't know what the requirements were but I saw the ads.  All the shelters here had over 50 % pit bull or pit bull mixes in their inventory.  We have no kill shelters (Yea!) but  yes people have very strong biases which rescues they want to live with.  Luckly we have quite a few purebred dog rescue organizations. The idea is that purebreds should be placed by people that know the breed.  Nobody wants their breed to have to stay in a shelter.  The shelter people cannot know enough about all breeds of dogs.  I have GSDs and we have an awsome GDS rescue group.  There are often 150 adult GSDs available for rescue. There is a web site with pictures of each dog.  Monthly, some of the dogs are taken to a pet shop so people can go there and pick one. 
Sally Nesbit runs AKC agility trials using a donated location and lots of other things donated, and all the profit goes to the GSD rescue.  These trials are run uncer the aegis of our GSD breed club which  provides the AKC event nos.  Lots of cooperation.  Sally is truely amazing.  Agility trials seems a great way to get money for rescue.    Alice             

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 13 November 2012 - 12:11

WNewbie- I myself feel if you produce a dog, you got a responsibility for that dog, for the life of that dog, IF it needs you!
I have never turned my back on a dog, be it purebred, or Mutt.
I sit up at night trying to think of ways to save dogs lives. It makes me sick how many people just throw their animals away.
And if you think that dogs produced by those that title their dogs, are "safer" than those that don't, you need to think again.
And if you are talking to me about breeding to untitled dogs, yeah, I do, and I also make sure anyone that gets one of my pups knows, the dog can always come back home.
I do rescue, I support rescue efforts.What I do has no baring on why rescue groups charge more for a purebred than they do for a mutt.
That was the jist of THIS thread. It's WRONG.

GSDNewbie

by GSDNewbie on 13 November 2012 - 12:11

I was not talking to you. I also agree that everyone titling dogs do not hold theirselves responsible for what they produce by any means. I am merely saying all the dogs being bred do not need to be bred and are not a must have to the genetics in the breeds. People breeding titled dogs are also breeding dogs that are not must haves as well. I bet small puppy mutts probably bring in more from back yard breeders than un titled gsd pups as well. They sell better and for more than working line well bred but unshown gsds do unless being sold to police depts. Doing some rescue of dogs in need imo does not erase breeding litters from dogs that are not going to make a difference in the breed. There are some dogs untitled that should be bred, but they are far and few in between and a lot less than all the pet owners that must just have puppies from their dog. I also agreed above that some rescues are just nuts in many ways. I only explained where the higher price for purebreds was born, not why some use it for the wrong reasons and for too much.

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 13 November 2012 - 13:11

Good enough, at least we ALL agree, no matter who breeds them, there are way too many unwanted pets in the shelters.
It would be wonderful if more owners and breeders were accountable for the dogs they produced, that wind up in a shelter.
AVery sad fact of life, for far too many animals.

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 13 November 2012 - 15:11

Good point Newbie on the origination of the price increase.  I did not think of that.  It is heart breaking all the way around about how much of society think that pets are just throw aways.  No matter how the animal got here, we, as humans, were given the task to care for them.   How often are we failing in that simple task.






 


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