Great interview with Gerrard van Es - Page 3

Of course Qvido is a very well trained sport dog and why would you expect to see an indication of aggression? It is IPO/IGP. A lot of high quality training with a dog with good genetics was invested in creating the outcome of a performance. That doesn't mean the dog doesn't have the genetics for work. I don't know if he does or doesn't and either do you. My point is that Valk seems to equate drive with a dog not being a "real" dog which is just nostalgic BS. IMO, many people don't appreciate the effort and resilience of a dog like Qvido that is required to get this performance. Duke, you oversimplify things when you see no evidence of aggression. Aggression comes in many forms and IPO only requires a portion of the forms of aggression that a dog can possess. There is predatory aggression, defensive aggression, active aggression, social aggression, etc. and those types of aggression have different levels of thresholds/intensity. Valk, how can you say you have no doubts about Gento's and Robby's civil guts when you have never tested the dogs? Both you and Duke are going by either what you have heard about the dogs or what you assume based on a video. I admit that I don't what Qvido brings to the table in terms of real life application because all I have seen is a video. You and Duke remind me of Prager in thinking that dogs with strong prey drive are "prey monkeys" when you really don't know. Defensive dogs can be a double edged sword. Some are tough and some are just trying to chase away their worry. Every dog is an individual. Regarding Gento's performance on the video, I would think that at his level of maturity and training, he would not devolve due to age and a poor helper. Again, people are going by what someone has said about the dog, and I'm not convinced of Gerrard's credibility. There have also been rumors that Robby was a GSD X Mal cross. It is hard to know what is true about a dog unless you have actually seen, tested or trained the dog.

BM, I’m not sure the date on the video is correct. I think he is closer to 8 years at the time. Definitely tell the old dog was a little rusty on the exercises. I have several old video tapes from that seminar, if I can get them to play I will see if there is a different time stamp.

You mentioned females, in an earlier post. Unfortunately the closest I came to working a female out of Gento was through a daughter from his littermate, Gideon. Qunita haus Larwin. This was a nice bitch. I watched her breed survey and laughed because the helper was very weak on her. She could have taken anything he would have brought. There were some good dogs coming from the Belgiums in the 90s. Van Es certainly had his share of them. Do you know if he is still working dogs? I have not heard anything about him in years.

I heard several years ago that he convicted of cultivating marijuana and likely did some time, affecting his breeding. I saw a photo on Jinopo's website not too long ago where von haus Antverpa (his kennel name) bred a bitch to Jago Jipo me, but there was no mention of van Es. I don't know if he is still breeding commercially.  Duke probably knows.

Here is a video I took of the Gideon daughter during her survey if interested.  It was early to mid 90s.  I included the bonus footage of the grass for anyone into horticulture. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kGpt7oXIxE

 

a Gideon Haus Larwin daughter and what is the name of her mother? Always difficult and not fair give opinions about dogs for a few seconds in a video . I have the idea the quality dogs general male and females GSD was better in 80,s/90,s than today . Sure some people will disagree but thats only a opinion and personal taste from dogs.the more  real dogs vs flashy sport

Also like the old Schutzhund style more than the modern IPO  today.

no he dont breed no more, he died quite some time ago, his then wife holds the kennelnames of both antwerpa and kukays and did some litters of both breeds with different people, she herself got a DDR female that she bred to a dog from novotny and several pups went to novotny. she bred that female to a vito son first,nice looking KNPV titled male, know several of that litter to be pet quality only

the story that robby has malinois in it is a bullshit story, also some said orry had malinois blood and kukays malinois got GSD blood, all a lot of blabla from clueless people

@ Apple, I already tested quite some offspring of Quido that where bred and/or raised for policework, and till now not one is suitable, some would make real nice sportdogs

dont think it is speaking bad about a dog when I say that it is extremely suitable for sport, but not so much for LE, different thinhs, nothing more than that

there is also still tons of people who still think all showlines are commisar Rex or Rintintin, so what 

I don't know anything about the dog or what he produces except that he gave a winning performance in 2018 and that I don't think viewing a video of an IPO trial gives you much information about a dog's potential for LE. I don't doubt the results of your testing of his off spring and I believe point dogs are generally not the best candidates for LE.

Apple, there are quite some things I can take from an IPO3 routine, but guess most people only look at the scores in the end

there are also tons of people that think a KNPV certified dog "met lof " is better than one without, when in reality thats all about training, and not about the actual dog

 

About 15 years ago I have trained with some Haus Larwin dogs and offspring @ Bert Salomons
not the best looking GSD,s what most people prefer have seen some nice one but most of them
very very average in their work.
 

 

that can be said from every GSD and/or KNPV breeder, most dogs produced are not above average, but in some cases, some are