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susie

by susie on 23 April 2017 - 08:04

Only out of personal curiosity about the English language -

When an Australian says :

"A very expensive stud dog was imported HERE..."
does "here" mean "to my country" ( as I understood ) or does "here" mean "in this case" ?

Further on VK said :

"QUARANTINE, transport etc have been forbidden to state that..."
There is no quarantine in most countries.

Help!

by vk4gsd on 23 April 2017 - 08:04

We completely rekt the English language. trust me Susie you speak way more proper English than I does.

susie

by susie on 23 April 2017 - 08:04

Teeth Smile


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 23 April 2017 - 12:04

Australia has a very unique flora and fauna, and as a result many species imported from elsewhere have become terrible pests. They therefore have some of the strictest quarantine laws in the world. Johnny Depp's wife got into serious trouble for sneaking his pet lap dogs onto the mainland when he was staying there: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3360301/Trial-set-Johnny-Depp-dog-case-Australia.html

New Zealand is a rabies-free country, and that is one of the reasons the laws are so strict where animals are concerned.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 23 April 2017 - 14:04

Correction: sorry guys, I read something Les wrote to me too quickly and rushed into type here, I think the N in ANKC may mean 'national' (not: joint with New Zealand). Will use the link he sent me to check that but meanwhile I thought I'd better let you know I spotted it! Mea culpa.


LOL @ duke's post; I can believe all of that !

I agree with Sunny about the rigourous Australian import control practices; but once they have allowed a dog into their holding facility, do they run a comparative DNA swab (checked against German, wherever, records ?) I bet they don't. Why would they, doing their Kennel Club's business for it ? Its still a GSD not a cow, whatever its Registered name and parentage. What would they do about an import from somewhere other than Germany where there is no compulsory DNA registration; have different standards or routine for dogs from different countries (once they agreed they could come into their country AT ALL). You credit them with a lot of time at their disposal. 24/7 processing laboratory, also, with time to worry about dogs' IDs in the midst of all the drugs investigations ? Do any countries Customs run titres on Rabies, or do they just go by the paperwork that tells them vaccination has been done ?

If anything is done on these lines, it will be on a 'sampling' basis, not every individual dog, surely ?


by beetree on 23 April 2017 - 16:04

Isn't it possible that this stud had been collected in the past and the bitches were impregnated via AI once the death was discovered?

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 25 April 2017 - 17:04

Despite popular belief, the crappy old AKC requires DNA on all import dogs, there are some rules here in the USA....aside from that, freedom to do....is a wonderful thing!

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 25 April 2017 - 17:04

The ignorance of others, should not be laid at my feet
..
If others are too lazy to look into what they do, should not affect me,
Ignorance of the laws, is no excuse...

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 25 April 2017 - 18:04

The breeder of my first GSD had imported his stud from Germany titled and with good pedigree.  Since he was Schutzhund III, the owner had some initial difficulties finding a kennel that would keep him.  A local well know trainer at that time agreed to take him.  What the breeder didn't know was this trainer had some shady dealings that had yet to catch up (they came to light no long after this incident I am about to tell you of).  This trainer did not have a male at that time but did have a couple females in heat.  This trainer asked the breeder if he wanted to sell the dog, money was not object, the breeder declined.  The breeder picked up his dog after a few days and the trainer shortly thereafter had two litters of puppies.  When the breeder asked about the sire, the trainer gave him vague answers about buying a new male and breeding the females to him (no male on premises at that time).  Breeder got suspicious, meanwhile the trainer sold the puppies, registered with AKC as the stud dog recently purchased.  Breeder asked for investigation and it was found through DNA testing the trainer had breed his dog to the females and was trying to pass off the pups as being sired by the trainer's new male.  The trainer was banned by AKC and Schutzhund, not allowed to register, show, or trial any dogs associated to this trainer (trainer switched to French Ring and I heard the trainer couldn't refrain from illegal activities surrounding dogs and was banned from that too).  Around the same time it was proven the trainer has stolen the trained K9 of another handler and sold the dog while the handler was on vacation.  The handler was devastated when the trainer told him his dog had died suddenly and was cremated because it happened just after he left and she "didn't want to ruin his vacation."  The handler was at a demonstration with other police departments when he noticed his K9 with another police officer.  The tattoo was altered and his dog found, this trainer was prosecuted and had to pay resitution, the trainer was sanctioned by AKC.  Trainer is not in business and so I will not publish the trainer's name.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 25 April 2017 - 19:04

All of which just goes to show that even where there are ways to sort it out afterwards, some people will still try it on.





 


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