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by hexe on 09 May 2016 - 03:05

Dasaquin and Dasaquin with MSM  are a twist on Nutramax Labs original product, Cosequin, and I've also been hearing good things from people using these; the majority of them have their dogs on the Dasaquin with MSM, but both products are apparently quite palatable and have provided the desired effects. 

As always, YMMV.


by Nans gsd on 09 May 2016 - 18:05

Am looking into Dasaquin (or sp??) but have recently heard from MD's that the general glucausamine/condrotin (SP) also; sorry--spellcheck not working)
is not effective for humans?? S- - - . So that leaves me with OK if is not working for humans, is it working for our dogs? Am trying to find out more info also they do have a Dasaquin with MSM which I believe is the updated Dasaquin formula also known as extra strength?? Will try to look for more info on that also. Thx everyone, moving on. Nan

 

At HEXE:  do you remember what determined your dosage for your boys Microlactin?  Can you give more milligrams in pill form extra strength if need be and then back off later?  I really think the extra strength formula I purchased at Swansons has helped.  Thank you for that and I want to send it on to my friend who's Samoyed boy (littermate to my guy) now 10 years old; hurt his shoulder yet again (a recurring injury from some time ago) and want her to start him on MicroLactin for maintenance.  He's a smaller boy at about 60 lbs. give or take a bit.  Thanks in advance,  Nan


by hexe on 10 May 2016 - 01:05

The canine version comes in 1000 mg tablets, and the recommended amount to give for those, when used as an anti-inflammatory, is:

Directions for Use by Dog Weight
•0-40 lbs 1/2 tablet twice daily = 500 mg twice daily
•41-80 lbs 1 tablet twice daily = 1000 mg twice daily
•81+ lbs 1 1/2 tablets twice daily = 1500 mg twice daily

With the Swanson powder, 1 teaspoon = 1 gram = 1000 mg

For my previous dog [70#] who had spondylosis, I went with the 1000 mg amount and that was sufficient to give her some relief [though eventually we did have to add low dose of Tramadol to help with the nerve pain]. With both the Swanson powder and the Duralatin chewable tablets, you start out with a 'loading phase' where you give double the basic amount for the first week, and then drop back to the basic amount thereafter. There's generally no adverse effects seen with this product; some dogs might have loose stools at first, but I've never had that experience with my dogs.

You also can't really 'oversupplement' with the product, so you can tweak the amount as needed--my present 100# guy, who has both spondylosis and discoid lupus, gets 2000 mg twice a day, because the higher amount keeps his lupus in remission.

The powder is basically tasteless, and mixes well with their food, so that's how I give it to my dogs.

by Nans gsd on 11 May 2016 - 01:05

Thank you hexe, I will pass this info along to my friend and I am probably going to change to the powder... Think the powder forms in most things get used in the system more efficiently. Nan

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 12 May 2016 - 14:05

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by Nans gsd on 13 May 2016 - 15:05

Thanks for the info Bubba; very informative... Nan

Ramage

by Ramage on 17 May 2016 - 18:05

I am on the 3rd week of the loading dose. It's running me about $350 to try this :-/ but I will say it seems to help. Like mentioned above, mine limps worse after an injection. In this case, though, its a day or two of limping and then a day or two of normal and we have another shot. The real question is how well is it going to work when the loading dose is over. I'm not about to do this 2x a week for life, so if it doesn't work well at 2x a month, I'm not going to keep doing it. I noticed a big improvement, before injections started, just from putting mine on MSM and high doses of fish oil.

by Nans gsd on 17 May 2016 - 18:05

Thx Ramage; is this from an injury; wear and tear; an older dog?? Where or do you know is the defecit?

As I do not necessarily know where my boys problem is located, believing it is his spine but not positive. Hoping I find something that works though and some have had good luck with Adequin; others not so much. At this point am not in favor for many reasons, plus the cost, JHC. Hate giving shots also.

Hope it helps your dog though, can you let me know. Thx Nan

Ramage

by Ramage on 17 May 2016 - 19:05

My guy has a bad case of Lyme that went to the joints. He's fine now, but stiff in the joints which can happen after a bad bout of Lyme. Unfortunately, he's relatively young at just 5.5 years, so I need a better long term solution than NSAIDs. We'd just finished his IPO1 and were ready to start trialing more when this happened, so I am also hoping to find a solution that allows us to continue competing. MSM, HA, fish oil, and green lipid were helping but not enough. Long term NSAID isn't healthy, so need to try other options first.

I will say that 2 pills 2x daily of T-Relief also helps. I even take it myself now. Its an herbal pain relief and can help with low levels of pain.

Ramage

by Ramage on 28 May 2016 - 00:05

I am sad to report that the Adequan was a total waste of $350. We have finished the loading dose, but there is really no difference. The injection still has the same minimal help that it did from the very first dose. Injection one day, worse the next day, better the 3rd and then needs another injection or he gets worse again. At this rate, I would have to continue the injections 2x a week for only 2 days of him feeling better. It's too much money and not worth it.





 


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