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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 20 February 2019 - 16:02

Think I mentioned this before, but the bitch I used to have, who had repeated ear trouble, turned out to be allergic to all dairy. So if you give yours any milk, milk-bones, cheese etc, you might find it worth witholding all those, to test that.
BRADY BEE

by BRADY BEE on 20 February 2019 - 17:02

I had a dog with IBD and severe food allergies. I could write a book on all the various foods I tried on him, including raw. After several biopsies and a great deal of money, turns out he was allergic to protein. A true immune mediated allergy, not just a food sensitivity /intolerance. Normally I wouldn't touch Purina with a barge pole, but after running out of options I succumbed and tried the Purina HA on the advice of my vet. The hydrolysed protein in the food is broken down into such small amounts that the immune system doesn't detect it. What a difference ! This shitty food was a life saver for the last year of Brady's life untill he finally and suddenly passed with cancer. Poor dog was an immune cripple but if I were you Sunsilver I'd give it a try. You've nothing to lose. Good luck

Xeph

by Xeph on 20 February 2019 - 19:02

Hydrolyzed diets work. They are studied and tested. It’s a myth that vets don’t get nutrition education and my vet friends are sick of hearing this (many of them are breeders).

Boutique foods seem to be causing DCM, but foods like ProPlan, which actually have science and *feeding trials* behind them do not

My dogs are currently on PP Sport and are doing great.

The vet prescribed this food for your dog because it can and DOES help. The ingredients aren’t ideal because of what we’ve been taught. That doesn’t mean it is not useful to you at this time for the issues your dog has.

BRADY BEE

by BRADY BEE on 20 February 2019 - 19:02

👍 xeph
Prager

by Prager on 21 February 2019 - 01:02

Protein hydrolysis can be used to modify the allergenic properties of proteins and is often achieved by boiling protein in strong acid or strong base.( Yuck!!) What happens by hydrolyzation is that the protein is broken down to smaller by immune system not recognized protein chains and amino acids and peptide chains, thus limiting allegic threatd. Hydrolyzed protein is often used in the manufacturing process of certain specially formulated hypoallergenic dog foods for dogs and puppies that suffer from allergies caused by certain protein types. Hydrolyzation of protein also produces food taste enhancers like MSG.( yuck!!!) To me if the food looks like it was produced by Chevron or Dupont that means to stay away from it regardless of how shiny the bag is. IMO if the dog has allergies you can hydrolyze protein by soaking it in apple cider vinegar and boiling it. The other option is to find out by test to what protein the dog is allergic and not to feed it and otherwise to feed raw. Personally i think that granulated dog food may create allergies. Alegies are most likely caused by:

1. Wheat (wheat-based dry food, dental sticks, bread, pasta)

2. Processed Chicken or beef (and possibly all red meats,  a result of the highly processed gunk used in dry food   

3. Chemicals (all the stuff you can’t pronounce in the dry food ingredients but also neurotoxic chemical flea treatments, heavy wormers and needless annual boosters) 

by astrovan2487 on 21 February 2019 - 03:02

There is a company that does testing for food allergies called Nutriscan. Its a cotton rope you put in their mouth, collects a saliva sample, you mail it back and apparently they can tell from the sample if your dog has a food allergy. My dog was having some mild itchiness/ear issues so I thought I'd try it, just sent it in so don't know results yet. Cost $298, you don't have to go through your vet to get it.

No idea if the this test is worth it or not, I asked the regular vet and rehab vet about it and neither seemed to think much of it but had never really heard of it either.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 21 February 2019 - 08:02

Astrovan, IF that is genuine, and it really works, it could be one of the best new introductions ever ! Do let us know when you get your result, and if you are satisfied that it makes sense; and if it works when applied, in due course. Really grateful if you supply those details !

by ZweiGSD on 21 February 2019 - 14:02

Some info on food allergies from Dr. Becker. If you scroll down it has a section on hydrolyzed food.

https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/05/07/protein-diets-for-pets-allergy.aspx

Very short article on it from Whole Dog Journal.

https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/17_15/features/Commercial-Foods-For-Allergic-Dogs_21163-1.html

 

Dr. Jean Dodds is the founder of Nutriscan.

https://www.nutriscan.org/

 

by astrovan2487 on 22 February 2019 - 01:02

I will definitely post results when I get them. Blood test came back negative for any common environmental allergies so if she has allergies at all then should be food related. I should get results back in the next week or two at the most.

by jillmissal on 23 February 2019 - 22:02

The entire point of hydrolyzed protein is that it really doesn't matter where it comes from - it's broken down into its chain amino acids so the body cannot recognize a potential allergen or allergic threat.

There's nothing wrong with corn in dog food. It's a myth that it is bad for dogs.

There is nothing wrong with that food. It or any other hydrolyzed protein food is a great bet for getting to the bottom of your dog's allergy issues. It has lower macronutrient ratios to make it more digestible. Honestly, I wish I could find those macro ratios in commercial food as I think dogs do better on them, but the marketing machine pushed by hysterical misinformation makes such a food impossible to find outside of expensive veterinary diets.

(One more time, there is no evidence whatsoever that raw food has any benefits and plenty of evidence that it has many risks and dangers. Do not let the opinions of a bunch of non-medical professionals sway your decision on this or convince you to try random supplements or endless rotations of foods your vet has not recommended. Please listen to your vet. Your dog will thank you. )


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