selling pregnant bitches - Page 3

Hello everyone ! I am german and I would like to say, that I have been visiting the mentioned websites. I find, that the owners try to do the best they can. If anyone think's he could do it better, why dont you help each other, instead of attacking each other ? The problem with pregnant bitches is, that they get shiped to late, most of the time. That's mainly the new owners fould, they want to make shure, that the female is pregnant and instead of making an ultrasound after three weeks of pregnancy....they wait untill it can be seen that the bitch is in whelp. Most of those people forget, that the female's organism needs at least four weeks, to build up a resistance to various viruses. I would not ship a female after four weeks of gestation. have a nice day ! to get the full value of joy, you must have someone to devide it with....

Blitzen and Dawnmartie -- you have good hearted healthy attitudes about GSD's --- i so far to date have never nerver sold a dog that i acquired --- someimtes we as humans forget that animals have thoughts [ a german shepherd can decuctive reason] and have feelings [ not to be confused with morals ] . they know when a loved one is sick or past away - thery know they and we feel pain . etc. ... aside from breeding practices .. i have seen many a dog from novices and professionals alike mishandle a dog .. misguide training because they don't look at the dog .... i feel that with training , with pets and as with training .. IT IS THE RELATIONSHIP we have with GSD that matters above ALL ELSE . !! and history proves this from the very staret .. SO Why did the wolf gravitate to humans and vice -a -verse .. It surely wasn't about single sided business -=- again .. i think you both have healthy attitudes -- i would trust you with my dogs anytime

Caroline, I didn't wanted my discussion to become girlie talk. Im just saying that people should worry more on the dogs sake besides money in their pocket. Gaby, Was that website your website? Now your wanting to compare websites to mine? Anyhow since you asked I will give you my websites: http://www.freewebs.com/vomhausanimus/ http://www.freewebs.com/gewitterstarke/ This isn't my official kennel, as some people on this site love to theorized about it endlessly. wolfsmatte, Why blame the new owners? It's the sellers fault for even allowing this to happen! it's always the new owners fault. when will the previous owner take some responsibility for once? Why cant the previous owners discontinue to sell pregnant bitches, if their not after the money? What's so hard to say to a potential buyer "sorry we don't sell pregnant bitches" ?

LOL, now it looks like Brittany is Blitzenstein. Boy, this guy must sell a lot of dogs in his area to attrack so much envy from his peers. If the Wildthaang would ask nice, maybe Brittany would help her with her web site? Wolfsmatte has made some good points about the selling of pg bitches and I like his statement about sharing in another's joy. Some just don't have the capacity to do that and would rather be nasty to others. Too bad. Thanks, Alphapup, from what I hear you would be someone I would love to get a dog from. We have the same attitude about this breed and their uncanny sense of being able to see into the soul of their people. They are human in so many ways. Right now Herr Blitz is asking for his scramble eggs LOL.

Brittany, I feel, that you are a very agressive Person...why dont you write to me in a normal way ? Why do you start to attack me ? I didn't say, that I have ever sold a pregnant female, did I !? And I will never sell a pregnant one either....."sorry we dont sell pregnant bitches"

nothing wrong buying a bred bitch, as long as it's done prior to the 4th week and is healthy.Brittany, if you ever are to become with child that does not automaticaly condemn you to 9 months in home without travel,again assuming that all is ok health wise

I guess we need to be even more concise!!! 'blitzenstein.com' is a local small scale commercial newspaper advertising breeder. A long shed on a busy road near Crooked Creek Park in Ford City PA was painted red, a sign put up, some runs put up - viola' a kennel. This kennel has nothing to do with the poster named Blitzen - that I would bet the bank on! I could be wrong, and I could have a winning power ball ticket in my truck too! Shreckenhaus is an older retired lady, her daughter in law does her web site. we corresponded briefly last year, thus my info. Former dairy farmers if memory serves me,who got into GSDs and German high lines via a breeder in Germany who found the SV criteria too exhausting and unattainable apparently was my take on the situation. This kennel sells pet puppies using and capitolizing on the achievements others attain by buying puppies and breeding them. 'wildthing' - who knows if this is the owner or the daughter in law???? Pat or Jill? Pat is sure not in her 20s - she was hauling her kids to 4-H horse shows 20 years ago. Jill????? Don't know, but 'wildthing' sure has it in for 'blitzenstein' - but they are major competitors for the puppy market and in each others back yards! 'gaby' I now suspect is 'wildthings' German contact who visited her and brought her over dogs. I could be putting 2 + 2 together and getting 5. On the subject of a pregnant bitch - $$$$$$$ The seller gets a big price and the buyer feels he can be immediately in business as a breeder and recoup his investment. I once bought a bitch, left her to be bred and get further titles and credentials. Got sent a different bitch than I thought I bought, totally different character and looks. Not bred. No credentials attained. No compensation even though it was agreed to by the seller. Got royally ripped off. THAT seller is here pushing pups and brokering dogs. Be aware that speaking English does not mean the seller is ethical. And I agree that these dogs have feelings and need to have a relationship. I have a hard time parting with older pups even, and have kept a couple of older dogs who have been spayed rather than pass them off to someone else. They earn their retirement.

When people are running a Business they should watch the words that come outta their mouths. It can hurt your business terribly. It does not matter who or where anybody is from, it is certainly not hard to track down anybody on this board. Why so hostial are some naming places, kennels, putting down web sites, etc? This board years ago was a nice place to discuss German Shepherds or dog problems. Now with a few bad apples it is a very bad place to try and discuss a problem or try and answer a persons question. When two men get on that are close friends most likely made in prison, and starts to put others down, then it is time for Oli to redo his board or site again. He shut it down once to clean it up, that is a real shame because of some people here that do not truly want to discuss dogs at all. I would not publically put down anybodys web sites, I know what kind of work is involved in a really nice well kept one. I have done web sites and they are hard work, long hours of it. Well, orginially the question was selling pregnant bitches. If she is not in poor condition and not too late into the pregnance they do ship them abroad with an agent in charge usually. I know a big Breedeer that buys her this way alot with no problems, sell the pups and often returns the bitch back to Germany to be rebred. No Problem. But, she does have a Trainer and Agent handling the situation.

wildthing - since logging on what 4 days ago??? you have posted a ton of nonsensical BS and exude hostility towards board members who you somehow decided were the kennel down the road from you. You post an ad that obviously identifies yourself, then state you are someone else named Jill who is 20something. 2 men in prison? Attorneys and the AKC? Accusing people of not worming their dogs? You have a vendetta with Joe over in Ford City obviously - but are jumping over people here who have not a clue why or where!!! There are alot of posters whose identity is unknown, and even if they were identified, probably not one in 100 would give a darn who they were or have heard of them anyway! I have had people contact me for pups who have been to Joes, and who have been to your place. I don't sell to the average pet home, I refer them to a breeder where they can get pups or young dogs from litters where the parents are titled and koered.

Well, Wildthaang, I think you are finally on the same page with the rest of us as far as watching the words that come out of mouths. That's what I was trying to tell you and that's been Kougar's and GSDNewbie's points all along, you had better be careful about what you say on a public list about a competitor who earns his living selling GSD's, it could be considered libelous. I don't know if you are the owner of the kennel you advertise on this board or if you show or import or title or breed a litter every month. Frnakly, I don't care. Just make sure to leave me out of the mix when you give your opinion on who is and who isn't a puppy mill. You don't know anything about me or my experiences in the dog world and for all you know I might be a law enforcement office or an attorney. Actually, you don't know who most of the posters to this board are although you seem to spend a lot of time trying to find out for whatever reason. Have a good day.